#1
i've been playing electric nearly 2 years and i'm going to buy my first acoustic.

what are peoples opinions on a fender cd-100ce?
i'm left handed and this seems the best i can get for a similar price range in left handed
#4
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why not? whats up with them?

Poor quality, overpriced, essentially a "toy" more than a serious instrument. Steer clear of the Martin X series, too. Look into the "What acoustic for under $300" thread for good starter choices. I'd recommend looking at Yamaha. If it was good enough for Elliott Smith, it should be good enough for you.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#6
i got the fender cd 140...and it's a very very nice guitar. i love it. i used to not like fender acoustics but after playing this, i take back what i said about them. this runs for about $300 and it's nicer than some of the more expensive acoustics by other brands. this acoustic is amazing quality and i couldn't be happier. its an electric acoustic by the way.
#7
Not a problem. Though, before buying, I'd recommend you go into a store and play them.
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i got the fender cd 140...and it's a very very nice guitar. i love it. i used to not like fender acoustics but after playing this, i take back what i said about them. this runs for about $300 and it's nicer than some of the more expensive acoustics by other brands. this acoustic is amazing quality and i couldn't be happier. its an electric acoustic by the way.

I've played this guitar. I was very unhappy with the grade of spruce they used for the top. It had visible imperfections and dead spots that were obvious from tap tuning. Though, as long as you're happy with it, that's what's important.

The most important thing is to play each acoustic and make an educated decision. At the very least, be sure you are buying a solid top guitar. Listen to and evaluate opinions, especially ones contrary to your own. It's a big decision, so just make it wisely. I'm not saying you "shouldn't" buy a Fender acoustic, just that many of the viewers of this board wouldn't for various reasons. Again, it's all up to you.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#8
I'd suggest a nice epiphone, or a takamine for your first acoustic. Great acoustic tone for a good price.
#9
not sure what this dude's talking about, i have a DX1 acoustic and it's a solid guitar, especially for well under $1000 (around 500-600). i think if you've been playing electric for 2 years you should be halfway decent and can go for something around this quality/price range; it's not great, but it'll hold you over for a while. as for the fender acoustics, yeah from what i've played they've sounded pretty ****ty. the takamine GS430S is a great starter guitar for $299 if that's more what you're looking at pricewise
#10
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not sure what this dude's talking about, i have a DX1 acoustic and it's a solid guitar, especially for well under $1000 (around 500-600). i think if you've been playing electric for 2 years you should be halfway decent and can go for something around this quality/price range; it's not great, but it'll hold you over for a while. as for the fender acoustics, yeah from what i've played they've sounded pretty ****ty. the takamine GS430S is a great starter guitar for $299 if that's more what you're looking at pricewise

The X series is comprised of "dead" guitars. The material that Martin uses for the back and sides (and top, in the case of the lower-end guitars) is HPL. This is a grey, pulpy goo that is squeezed out and baked like cookies into a big sheet. They then apply a big sticker to make it appear to be wood. It does not resonate like wood, does not sound like wood, and does not age like wood. This is worse than a laminate, which is at least comprised of two or more layers of actual wood. HPL is made out of newspaper, chopped up wood, and chemicals. I can tell any one of these monstrosities in a blind test; it sounds dead and muted.

Also, the spruce tops that they use are of an EXTREMELY low grade. I wouldn't even use it for firewood.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#11
from what ive read of Chads comments he does indeed know his stuff
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#12
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from what ive read og Chads comments he does indeed know his stuff

You flatter me. LeftyDave and jimtaka are the real geniuses around here. I just dance to their tune.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#13
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The X series is comprised of "dead" guitars. The material that Martin uses for the back and sides (and top, in the case of the lower-end guitars) is HPL. This is a grey, pulpy goo that is squeezed out and baked like cookies into a big sheet. They then apply a big sticker to make it appear to be wood. It does not resonate like wood, does not sound like wood, and does not age like wood. This is worse than a laminate, which is at least comprised of two or more layers of actual wood. HPL is made out of newspaper, chopped up wood, and chemicals. I can tell any one of these monstrosities in a blind test; it sounds dead and muted.

Also, the spruce tops that they use are of an EXTREMELY low grade. I wouldn't even use it for firewood.


I bet my "dead" DX1 made of newspaper and cardboard easily sounds better that any Alvarez under 1000$. My DX1 even sounds better than my friends 1500$+ Gibson Songwriter... Meybe you should play the guitar before you say it sounds dead and muted...
#14
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I bet my "dead" DX1 made of newspaper and cardboard easily sounds better that any Alvarez under 1000$. My DX1 even sounds better than my friends 1500$+ Gibson Songwriter... Meybe you should play the guitar before you say it sounds dead and muted...

I have played them. I've also repaired them. I know them inside and out; something important for the salesperson to do their job correctly. The difference between your DX1 and any solid wood guitar is that the solid wood guitar will grow better with age. Your DX1 will still be thick and muted twenty years from now.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#15
well you've blown us away with your knowledge there's no question about that, but what is really wrong with a relatively cheap guitar that sounds solid throughout? sure it won't age as well as the solid woods but it's not like we're talking about high end guitars here; he's probably gonna move onto better ones as he goes, at which point those features will be important, but he's just starting here. we don't have to blow his mind with the crazy ass technical details, he's looking for a guitar that sounds reasonably solid that'll hold him over as his first acoustic. the dx1 is a solid sounding guitar for its price, and in 20 years it will be a solid sounding guitar for its price.
#16
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well you've blown us away with your knowledge there's no question about that, but what is really wrong with a relatively cheap guitar that sounds solid throughout? sure it won't age as well as the solid woods but it's not like we're talking about high end guitars here; he's probably gonna move onto better ones as he goes, at which point those features will be important, but he's just starting here. we don't have to blow his mind with the crazy ass technical details, he's looking for a guitar that sounds reasonably solid that'll hold him over as his first acoustic. the dx1 is a solid sounding guitar for its price, and in 20 years it will be a solid sounding guitar for its price.


Uh, no. It's overpriced for what it is. Makes no sense to pay a premium for the name Martin on the headstock when you can get much more guitar for your money.
#17
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Uh, no. It's overpriced for what it is. Makes no sense to pay a premium for the name Martin on the headstock when you can get much more guitar for your money.


Exactly.
HPL (stuff used on the Martin X series) is a pretty horribly material for use on guitars. A standard laminate is much more durable. Sound, well, it's impossible to do a direct comparison but its easy to say both are not up to solid wood in terms of sound. However laminate does take the 1st prize for durability (its is strongest and least susceptible to humidity, with HPL being most susceptible).

Your paying a lot for pretty average stuff all round, but that name on the headstock is very pretty...

EDIT: soz for the double post before, the site was being dodgy. removed the duplicate now..
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#18
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well you've blown us away with your knowledge there's no question about that, but what is really wrong with a relatively cheap guitar that sounds solid throughout? sure it won't age as well as the solid woods but it's not like we're talking about high end guitars here; he's probably gonna move onto better ones as he goes, at which point those features will be important, but he's just starting here. we don't have to blow his mind with the crazy ass technical details, he's looking for a guitar that sounds reasonably solid that'll hold him over as his first acoustic. the dx1 is a solid sounding guitar for its price, and in 20 years it will be a solid sounding guitar for its price.

For the $500 asking price of a Martin DX1, you could buy a Epiphone Masterbilt DR-500M for $50 less. That guitar is all solid woods, with a lifetime warranty, and in 20 years, it will rival a Martin D-28. To begin with, that guitar rivals a D-18, right out of the box. I'm sorry, but Martin has no concept of what their instruments are actually worth.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#19
I agree about playing them first. I have a bunch of guitars and went with a friend to buy an acoustic for him to learn on. We agreed that the Martin DX1 was the clear choice. This thing sounded as good if not better than my 1964 Gibson and my high end Tak. I told the kid to let me know when they got another one, so I go in and play it and it didn't sound near as good as my buddie's. I would NEVER buy an acoustic over the net where you can't play it first.