#1
looking for suggestions for an acoustic that isnt wood colored or light colored...preferably black or a darker color...not too expensive but not cheap....just want a decent sound and playability close to electric guitar...been looking at ibanez...been reading they are a good value and play very well....any other suggestions?
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#4
I've played a couple of ibanez acoustics and can honestly say it sounded like S H I T. It was one of those ones with a real small body that's kind of styled after an electric guitar. I guess guitars are like engines: There is no RE-placement for DIS-placement.

There's loads of guitars with stained tops to choose from. Go to a guitar store and play a few. They also make graphite guitars, which they claim sound great and have none of the issues normal guitars do with humidity and temperature changes, but I've never heard one.

Edit: also, as for playing like an electric, you'll never find one that's quite as easy as an electric and still sounds good because to get a good sound on acoustic you need heavier strings (13 gauge is best, but is murder on your fingers and damn near impossible to bend. I use 12) If you try to use 9s or 10s like on an electric, it'll sound ultra thin and tinny. Look for a guitar that's got a pretty thin and narrow neck and reasonable action, and you should be able to get the action a little lower if you give it to a good luthier to set up.
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#5
I've got an awesome yamaha acoustic... it's black and plays very well, but was pretty cheap (£110).
#6
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I've played a couple of ibanez acoustics and can honestly say it sounded like S H I T. It was one of those ones with a real small body that's kind of styled after an electric guitar. I guess guitars are like engines: There is no RE-placement for DIS-placement.

There's loads of guitars with stained tops to choose from. Go to a guitar store and play a few. They also make graphite guitars, which they claim sound great and have none of the issues normal guitars do with humidity and temperature changes, but I've never heard one.

Edit: also, as for playing like an electric, you'll never find one that's quite as easy as an electric and still sounds good because to get a good sound on acoustic you need heavier strings (13 gauge is best, but is murder on your fingers and damn near impossible to bend. I use 12) If you try to use 9s or 10s like on an electric, it'll sound ultra thin and tinny. Look for a guitar that's got a pretty thin and narrow neck and reasonable action, and you should be able to get the action a little lower if you give it to a good luthier to set up.

ur talking about the talman....and ive been looking at that one...they it wont fill a room but sounds decent for playing by yourself...and is a great value...im more of an occasional player with acoustic....so i dont need that perfect acoustic sound...id rather it look nice and sound decent
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#8
Quote by twinturboaudi
looking for suggestions for an acoustic that isnt wood colored or light colored...preferably black or a darker color...not too expensive but not cheap....just want a decent sound and playability close to electric guitar...been looking at ibanez...been reading they are a good value and play very well....any other suggestions?


Alvarez's RD20S, Yamaha's FG720S, and Washburn's D10S all come in black. All are relatively inexpensive good quality solid top acoustics. The Yamaha FG720S and FG730S also come in dark sunburst. The FG730S sunburst is really gorgeous in person.
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Alvarez's RD20S, Yamaha's FG720S, and Washburn's D10S all come in black. All are relatively inexpensive good quality solid top acoustics. The Yamaha FG720S and FG730S also come in dark sunburst. The FG730S sunburst is really gorgeous in person.

omg... your avatar is jumping to the beat of the song i have playing right now "serrana" by jason becker...

but on topic, ive trie da few carbon fiber guitars and i just didnt like them, the sound didnt sound as "authentic" to me, but i could just be crazy
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omg... your avatar is jumping to the beat of the song i have playing right now "serrana" by jason becker...
LOL! Well... your avatar is jumping too :p

but on topic, ive trie da few carbon fiber guitars and i just didnt like them, the sound didnt sound as "authentic" to me, but i could just be crazy
carbon fiber??? Who makes carbon fiber guitars? I'm not trying to be a smartass, I honestly don't know and have never seen one.
#11
here's what TO avoid.

- Ovation guitars not made in the USA
- Any Ibanez acoustic whatsoever
- Cheap Martins(anything lower than a 15 series)
- Low end Taylors(200 and 100 series)
- Any irregular shaped acoustic guitar with sharp angles(e.g. Dean Flying V)
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here's what TO avoid.

- Ovation guitars not made in the USA
- Any Ibanez acoustic whatsoever
- Cheap Martins(anything lower than a 15 series)
- Low end Taylors(200 and 100 series)
- Any irregular shaped acoustic guitar with sharp angles(e.g. Dean Flying V)


This guy knows what he's talking about. Although I'd personally avoid ALL ovation guitars. Some of the most expensive ones sound good but they're all awkward to hold.
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Quote by captivate
here's what TO avoid.

- Ovation guitars not made in the USA
- Any Ibanez acoustic whatsoever
- Cheap Martins(anything lower than a 15 series)
- Low end Taylors(200 and 100 series)
- Any irregular shaped acoustic guitar with sharp angles(e.g. Dean Flying V)


Quoted again because it sums up everything you need to know quickly.

I have an Alvarez AD60SC and its a really ncie guitar for the money. Although I would never buy one in black, they do come in black, and do play well and sound good. Much better than any Ibanez.

BTW, if you have been reading online reviews on guitars, by wary. Interesting to read but if you look at almost any guitar or piece of equipment, it will have fairly positive reviews (Bit of buyer excitement usually, mix that in with a little bit of ignorance and you don't really get a very good idea about a guitar). Take them with a grain of salt in most cases. The people who are willing to talk about the faults are usually the people to listen to.
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BTW, if you have been reading online reviews on guitars, by wary. Interesting to read but if you look at almost any guitar or piece of equipment, it will have fairly positive reviews (Bit of buyer excitement usually, mix that in with a little bit of ignorance and you don't really get a very good idea about a guitar). Take them with a grain of salt in most cases. The people who are willing to talk about the faults are usually the people to listen to.


That last line is the key to reading online reviews. Some people are too proud to admit that their guitar have flaws. Believe it or not, people do go into denial when they find a fault with their guitar sometimes.

Online reviews are very often skewed by the buyer's excitement. Most often, the reviews take place right after the customer buys the instrument and hasn't had it for long. What you want is a review of a guitar that the consumer has had for quite a while so that they know how the guitar is to live with.
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Quote by twinturboaudi
been looking at ibanez...been reading they are a good value and play very well....any other suggestions?



Don't know where you were reading that but I wouldn't listen to them any more. Ibanez acoustic guitars are horible.

exactly how much are you looking to spend? What kind of sound are you trying to get?
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not really a spending limit...prob under 1k cuz i dont really play the acoustic much...as far as reviews, you guys are right...seems every guitar on earth gets a 5 star rating....my main issue with my current acoustic is two things...awkward size, body is a little too thick for my liking, and no cutout for higher frets...
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Quote by twinturboaudi
not really a spending limit...prob under 1k cuz i dont really play the acoustic much...as far as reviews, you guys are right...seems every guitar on earth gets a 5 star rating....my main issue with my current acoustic is two things...awkward size, body is a little too thick for my liking, and no cutout for higher frets...

Look into Ovation, then. My father has the Ovation Celebrity CC44 as a back-up and comfortable stage guitar. It's not a tone monster, but it's not an Ibanez, either. He's fairly happy with it, though it needed a bone saddle to really come through. That TUSQ really just kills tone, in my opinion. There are a few issues, mostly with the bracing of the top and the awkwardness of the string-through bridge. As far as acoustic electrics go, though, I think it was worth the money he paid.

Also, the fretboard and bridge were dry as a bone when he got the guitar, so it needed some serious lemon oil to be comfortably playable.
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i went and played some today....ibanez is definitely out...just awful....but i did play a new brand called laguna...and for some reason it had the sound i like and was decently priced...anyone else played one?
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Quote by twinturboaudi
i went and played some today....ibanez is definitely out...just awful....but i did play a new brand called laguna...and for some reason it had the sound i like and was decently priced...anyone else played one?

I've heard good things about them, but I've never played one.
Sincerely, Chad.
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Quote by twinturboaudi
not really a spending limit...prob under 1k cuz i dont really play the acoustic much...as far as reviews, you guys are right...seems every guitar on earth gets a 5 star rating....my main issue with my current acoustic is two things...awkward size, body is a little too thick for my liking, and no cutout for higher frets...


You'll get used to the thicker body really fast, don't sacrifice tone for that reason unless it REALLY bothers you. When I play acoustic a lot, I go back to electric and can't get used to the body being so thin.

As for the higher frets, you can get one with a single cutout without having a drastic effect on tone, although you won't be using acoustic guitars for shredding up at the 20th fret... it just doesn't work very well.
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Quote by sunshowers
Alvarez's RD20S, Yamaha's FG720S, and Washburn's D10S all come in black. All are relatively inexpensive good quality solid top acoustics. The Yamaha FG720S and FG730S also come in dark sunburst. The FG730S sunburst is really gorgeous in person.


+1 -- Especially the Alvarez. And steer away from Ibanez Acoustics -- better that way.