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18 is your answer.
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#4
Schecter has far more better value i think, not saying that the ESP sucks or anything because its probably better, but the schecter is more bang for the buck.

Action and neck is about the same, but I'd prefer the ESP istead of the Schecter because of the ebony fretboard! Hope I helped
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#5
Honestly the ESP will probably be overall better. The EC-II is made in Japan while the Hellraiser is korean.
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#8
I think it could go either way. I've played both, and the ESP has a faster neck, but the Hellraiser has 24 more frets. I think you should go with MH-1000, best of both.
#10
Get the EC-II or maybe an ibanez fixed bridge?
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#11
Esp, I haven't played a Schecter, but I've played an Esp Eclipse. A great guitar, don't think you could go wrong if you choose that.
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#12
People who say "Well they get setup in the US" need to have a reality check. THEY ARE NOT BUILT HERE. My guitars all set up in the US. Didn't mean I haven;t owned a few crappers along the way. the setup in the US thing is a total joke. The ESP is going to be of much higher quality in everyway; and this is from someone who hates ESP.
#13
What's with the "Built in Korea" thing being such a negative point? They're perfectly fine and find them to be even of better quality than many guitars built in the USA.

Being setup in the US adds another level of QC that many manufacturer's don't do, which is definitely a plus in my book.

Quality-wise, I'd easily put it on par with an ESP (and yes, I've tried many).
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I think it could go either way. I've played both, and the ESP has a faster neck, but the Hellraiser has 24 more frets. I think you should go with MH-1000, best of both.

so your saying it has over 40 frets?
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People who say "Well they get setup in the US" need to have a reality check. THEY ARE NOT BUILT HERE. My guitars all set up in the US. Didn't mean I haven;t owned a few crappers along the way. the setup in the US thing is a total joke. The ESP is going to be of much higher quality in everyway; and this is from someone who hates ESP.



wow man im getting really sick of every single time someone complements shecter you burst on the scene to tell everyone they are complete duds

I odnt know if you have ever even played a schecter but my hellraiser oozes with quality of guitars double its price.

schecter makes a quality instrument for a great price and im sure half of these forum goers could tell you that
#16
I've played for about 8 years now and primarily play metal...I also recently bought the Hellraiser and believe me it's amazing. Schecter is on the rise and if you disagree, you probably haven't played one recently b/c their quality is what you'd expect from a guitar twice its price.
#19
ESP all the way. ESP's quality is far superior. I'm not even that much a fan of ESP but they are built and feel so much better. I've played a few Hellraisers when I was shopping a guitar and they ranged in quality from dissapointing to completely horrendous. Maybe I was just unlucky, but get the ESP.
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People who say "Well they get setup in the US" need to have a reality check. THEY ARE NOT BUILT HERE. My guitars all set up in the US. Didn't mean I haven;t owned a few crappers along the way. the setup in the US thing is a total joke. The ESP is going to be of much higher quality in everyway; and this is from someone who hates ESP.


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#23
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wow man im getting really sick of every single time someone complements shecter you burst on the scene to tell everyone they are complete duds

I odnt know if you have ever even played a schecter but my hellraiser oozes with quality of guitars double its price.

schecter makes a quality instrument for a great price and im sure half of these forum goers could tell you that

I agree, my damien FR sounded way better than the other guitars in the same price range i tried at guitar center
#24
I played an Eclipse once, it's neck was nice. I'm used to Gibson style necks so that might be a reference point for you or whatever, but the neck was pretty thin.
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I think it could go either way. I've played both, and the ESP has a faster neck, but the Hellraiser has 24 more frets. I think you should go with MH-1000, best of both.


HOLY SH!T.....THAT'S LIKE 46 FRETS!!!!!!!!


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#26
I looked at both (bought a Jackson). The Hellraiser is an awesome guitar, but it can be VERY spotty in the quality department. I found a total of 5 of them among 4 different stores. 4 out of 5 were unacceptable to me. The 5th was great, but then the sales puke told me that there was no fitted case for it. There is, but you have to order it - he was an idiot.

The ESPs are more consistent in quality. I played the Jackson and liked it better than both the ESP and Schecter. The sticker was more, but I was able to haggle a great deal on the Jackson - don't be afraid to push for free stuff!

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#28
I don't understand what the big deal is. Every Hellraiser I've played has 46 frets, sounds like everyone else is getting ripped off...
#29
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People who say "Well they get setup in the US" need to have a reality check. THEY ARE NOT BUILT HERE. My guitars all set up in the US. Didn't mean I haven;t owned a few crappers along the way. the setup in the US thing is a total joke. The ESP is going to be of much higher quality in everyway; and this is from someone who hates ESP.


true that... im with you pretty much 100% on that with the exception of the old body style explorers they made... though it was kind of a rip off of gibsons explorers it was still different in its own respects... looked much better the way ESP did it... if i could find an ESP one with a set neck id trade it for my current gibson explorer in a heartbeat... but other than that im not too fond of esps... im a gibson and fender kinda guy i guess
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