#1
I was reading this guide on theroy http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/for_beginners/learning_music_theory_the_beginning.html?870345829#comments
but Im totally lost right at 2.1, I tried ignoring it for now and reading on and im confused on later parts too. Does anyone know where I can get a good theroy guide? I was told theroy is the best way to learn to play guitar well, so I really want to learn it but that guides too confusing.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503032
im not sure if thats what I want to learn either
Thanks
Last edited by burningmice at Apr 21, 2008,
#2
the music theory sticky which is the second link you had posted is probably the way to start


after you know how to make the major scale by counting tones ans semitones you can learn intervals that is how i started

a semi tone being 1 fret/note and a tone being 2 frets/note

most music we study is based off it so it is a good idea to start with that 7 note scale
song stuck in my head today


#3
Im just confused with the C rooot note stuff now, I understand half step/whole step and stuff
#6
Quote by burningmice
Im just confused with the C rooot note stuff now, I understand half step/whole step and stuff



C as the root note means the scale is in C

in this case it is Cmaj scale

kinda think of it as the key of Cmaj and ever other note in that formula is in that key
song stuck in my head today


#7
Quote by lbc_sublime
C as the root note means the scale is in C

in this case it is Cmaj scale

kinda think of it as the key of Cmaj and ever other note in that formula is in that key

So your saying that it isnt D its just like a lower pitch of Cmaj?
#8
Quote by burningmice
are you saying that a normal C major chord moved down two frets is a D?


no the D major has D F# and A

and Cmajor has C E G
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#9
Quote by burningmice
So your saying that it isnt D its just like a lower pitch of Cmaj?


no they have different notes in the scales

if you count by tones

whole whole half whole whole whole half

you would get

Cmaj

C C# D D# E F F# G G# A A# B C
WWHWWWH

OR

C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C
WWHWWWH

the bold are the scale

C D E F G A B C

so if we start on D we would get

Dmaj
D E F#G A B C# D

these scales can be played anywhere on the guitar neck and form different chords
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#10
So its still a Cmaj chord but its just going up the musical alphabet until it hits another octave and restarts?

EDIT: I posted this at the same time as your last message.

SSo do I have to change fingerings for scales like this, or just move my hand down the fretboard?
Last edited by burningmice at Apr 21, 2008,
#11
Quote by burningmice
So its still a Cmaj chord but its just going up the musical alphabet until it hits another octave and restarts?

EDIT: I posted this at the same time as your last message.

SSo do I have to change fingerings for scales like this, or just move my hand down the fretboard?


i am not quite sure what you are asking can you please allaborate?
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#12
Quote by lbc_sublime
i am not quite sure what you are asking can you please allaborate?

Do I have to change where my fingers are? Like the fingerings from a C to a D? Or do I just move my hand down the guitar?
#13
with barre chords you would just move down 2 frets to a D chord

but wiht open chords you would have to change fingering

does that make sence to you
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#14
Quote by lbc_sublime
with barre chords you would just move down 2 frets to a D chord

but wiht open chords you would have to change fingering

does that make sence to you

barre chords are the ones where one finger (or more) has to hold down more than one fret right and all strings are pressed against the fretboard right? So for the Cmaj chord on that second link I would have to change my fingerings?
#15
open Cmaj

e-0
B-1
G-0
D-2
A-3
E-0

open Dmajor

e-2
B-3
G-2
D- 0
A-x
E-x

Cmaj barre

e-3
B-5
G-5
D-5
A-3
E-3

Dmaj barre

e-5
B-7
G-7
D-7
A-5
E-5
song stuck in my head today


#16
Quote by lbc_sublime
no the D major has D F# and A

and Cmajor has C E G

He was right.


If you have C E G and move up 2 frets or 2 semitones/half steps the notes will change to D F# A (D major).

C up 2 frets (semitones) is D
E up 2 frets is F#
G up 2 frets is A
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#17
Quote by metal4all
He was right.


If you have C E G and move up 2 frets or 2 semitones/half steps the notes will change to D F# A (D major).

C up 2 frets (semitones) is D
E up 2 frets is F#
G up 2 frets is A


only if you barre it
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#20
Quote by ouchies
Thats not the point. The point is if you moved a C Major chord up a whole step, you would have D Major.



no my point is in a barre chord you can

open chords you need to change finger position


further more he asked if Dmajor is a lower pitch than Cmaj and and a lower pich of Cmaj to me would be an octave

the sounding of the chord will depend on the voicing
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Last edited by lbc_sublime at Apr 21, 2008,