#1
I am thinking of purchasing a new amp, which i could use for a very, very long time. Right now I'm only practicing at home, but I'm gonna start practicing with a band very soon. I'd like an amp which i could use for practicing alone at quiet volumes, practicing with a band and which i could use for gigs. Should i get tube or SS? Combo, half stack or full stack?

I do NOT want a modelling amp.

I've been looking at a few amps, e.g. peavey valveking, peavey windsor. What do u think about those?

Btw, is it possible to connect a combo to additional cabs for more volume?
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#2
what kind of music do you play?
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#3
yes u can connect a combo to a cabinet, ampeg vt-22 has the greatest tone i ever heard
#4
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what kind of music do you play?

+1

get a tube combo.
Unless you play metal then (maybe) get a SS
#5
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+1

get a tube combo.
Unless you play metal then (maybe) get a SS



why specifically a SS for metal??

anyway, list what kinda stuff you play, what guitar you have, and if any.. what kind of pedals you use.
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#6
Get a tube. If you are playing metal, just go for a high gain tube. Tubes are generally going to sound better than SS amps.

You could probably go with a combo, probably a 50 watt tube will be more than enough. You could probably go considerably lower, I'll let someone that knows more about that fill ou in with the details.
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#8
40-60 watt tube combo sounds like it'll work. And if you had some extra money then an attenuator for in home quieter volumes my two cents
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#10
Thanks for the tips everyone!

Sorry, I didn't have that much time to write earlier today so here's some more info:

The tone i'm looking for is pretty much a mixture of the rhythm guitar sounds of Anthrax, Metallica and Pantera. So a very crunchy, ballsy and clear (chugga-chugga-chugga) style distortion. I do not want the tone to be muddy. I'm willing to get pedals in addition to the amp. The amp should also have a decent clean channel. A footswitch input is almost a must and it'd be nice for the amp to have a place for earphones. The maximum cost for the amp hangs around 750euros (600pounds/1200dollars).
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Guitar(s):
Yamaha ERG-121
Tokai SG-35/CH (my brother's guitar, which I sometimes use)

Amp(s):
Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15-DFX



Do NOT click!!!
#11
Since you're in Europe, I suggest checking out things like the ENGL Fireball/Powerball/Screamer, the Laney VH100R/GH100L/GH50L/GH100TI/TT100H/TT50H/TT50C and the Orange Thunderverb 50.
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#12
Also check into Laney GH or LH series.
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#13
Quote by guitar_queero
Thanks for the tips everyone!

Sorry, I didn't have that much time to write earlier today so here's some more info:

The tone i'm looking for is pretty much a mixture of the rhythm guitar sounds of Anthrax, Metallica and Pantera. So a very crunchy, ballsy and clear (chugga-chugga-chugga) style distortion. I do not want the tone to be muddy. I'm willing to get pedals in addition to the amp. The amp should also have a decent clean channel. A footswitch input is almost a must and it'd be nice for the amp to have a place for earphones. The maximum cost for the amp hangs around 750euros (600pounds/1200dollars).

Well, the combo v stack decision has been made for you seeing as you can't afford a decent stack

Forget headphones, it's not gonna happen with a tube amp, but you definitely want to be looking at the Bugera stuff.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_333xl_212.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_6262_212.htm

Ignore all the Bugera/Behringer crap that's flying round at the moment - you can't be choosy with your budget and the Bugeras are pretty much the only thing you can afford that tick all the boxes. People say they're unreliable but the truth of the matter is that they haven't been around long enough for anyone to make an accurate assessment on their reliability.
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#14
Now i'm pretty sure that I'll get a tube combo. But it's gotta have a footswitch input and (if needed at future gigs) the capability to be connected to a cab. The Peavey VK is my #1 choice at the moment.
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Tokai SG-35/CH (my brother's guitar, which I sometimes use)

Amp(s):
Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15-DFX



Do NOT click!!!
#15
ABSOLUTELY NOT SS!
Depends on your price range actually...
if you've been looking at VK and Windsor then I guess a combo or the Windsor will be enough.
If you play more of metal/punk/punk rock get the Vk...I have it...I play punk and punk rock and I love it. Windsor is more of a Hard Rock thing without clean channel...that's it's only problem.
Otherwise it's awesome for the price.
I suggest you to try them out both.
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#16
definately an engl those amps are the s**t a fireball if you can up the budget for a cab (a 2x12 will do) or go for a screamer combo all availble from www.thomann.de
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definately an engl those amps are the s**t a fireball if you can up the budget for a cab (a 2x12 will do) or go for a screamer combo all availble from www.thomann.de

Engl is way over budget sadly.
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Now i'm pretty sure that I'll get a tube combo. But it's gotta have a footswitch input and (if needed at future gigs) the capability to be connected to a cab. The Peavey VK is my #1 choice at the moment.


You can connect a cab to the Bugeras (well, at least to the 6262). But trust me - you don't need to. That thing is obscenely loud. Yes, I mean that.

Bass (full? 115 + 410) stack, guitar modeller through PA system, drums and to keep up my 6262 combo was turned to about 3 or so. I was afraid of the other people in the building getting pissed off so I didn't want to turn it any higher.
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#22
Laney GH and VH series, same prices of the Bugera's but with proven reliability
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#23
The Bugeras will suit your metal needs VERY nicely....
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#24
lol @ Stereotype that ss = **** .
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#25
Randall makes some killer solid-state stuff, if you really feel compelled to go SS. I'm still siding with the Bugera
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#26
Bugera The Soul of FAIL
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#27
Why all the SS hate? I mean, the only thing tubes have over SS is that overdriven tone, but I doubt anyone here turns their amps up loud enough for their tubes to even overdrive. (at least any of the bedroom eddies here.) Seriously, you can get more tones out of an SS, they last longer, and the crunch distortion you speak of can pretty much only be reached with an SS.
#28
If you can find one i recomend an ampeg vh140c or ss140c
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#29
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Seriously, you can get more tones out of an SS, they last longer, and the crunch distortion you speak of can pretty much only be reached with an SS.


There aren't any SS amps out there that have lasted longer than the oldest Mesa, Marshall, Fender, etc. And I guess the original bands he listed as examples of the crunch distortion used SS? Try Boogie MK IIC+, for Metallica at least..
#30
Hey man, My soul of "fail" is still kickin and sounding damn good might I add ;p
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#31
I'd wait to see what the new Blackhearts are like. If the Hothead is good (and from the sounds of it, it will be) that is what I'm gonna end up getting. Always try it before you buy it. If that is not an option, research it on youtube and get UGs opinion. Steven Seagull is usually right about everything though, so you may love the Bugera.
#32
Check out the B52 AT100. It's Tube, It's got a great Metal chug, and has really clean cleans. Comes with a four way footswitch too.