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Why is it that only people of direct American Indian descent are called "Native Americans"? I have very little American Indian blood in me, but I was born here, so how am I not a Native American? I don't see why the fact that they were here first changes anything.

Any thoughts?
#2
i don't get it either, but now everybody claims to be part this and that so they sound more interesting. so if you say you native American no one will argue
#3
you are a native in the sense that you were born here.

but they are considered native because they were here before people from Europe and other areas came.


not that they originated here either, but still.
#4
I don't call it that, to me it's American Indian. I am a native american too.

Most Americans who have generations upon generations in the states have some American Indian blood in them anyway.
#5
Its just a term.

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I don't call it that, to me it's American Indian. I am a native american too.

Most Americans who have generations upon generations in the states have some American Indian blood in them anyway.


That gets confusing, and is improper. An American Indian would be someone in America, from, or whose parents were from, India.
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you are a native in the sense that you were born here.

but they are considered native because they were here before people from Europe and other areas came.


not that they originated here either, but still.

Well, they're called "native" because they were born here too. The first ones that came here weren't "native americans", so I don't see how it's different.
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Yes, I believe American Indian is correct. But I think either one sounds fine.
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#13
Who do you get your yearly check from??

My friends tribe that his ancestors belong to have a casino but i guess its only like one slot machine at a gas station. So every year he gets a check for 12 for being indian. Do you get one?
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i guess indian dosen't work for them because there not really from india (Columbus.... what a dumbass). they where here before America was really established so shouldn't they have a different name anyway? adding to that is the fact that they didn't really establish America; at least not as we now it
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Who do you get your yearly check from??

My friends tribe that his ancestors belong to have a casino but i guess its only like one slot machine at a gas station. So every year he gets a check for 12 for being indian. Do you get one?

Uh...Wtf? lol
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Because that's how they were looked at when discovered. They were native to the land, so it made sense to label them as "Native Americans". The reason it isn't used anymore to describe those born in America is because it's redundant to do so. No one's stopping your from saying you're a Native American, but it's just not part of common-use anymore.
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Because that's how they were looked at when discovered. They were native to the land, so it made sense to label them as "Native Americans". The reason it isn't used anymore to describe those born in America is because it's redundant. No one's stopping your from saying you're a Native American, but it's just not part of common-use anymore.

Well, I have no doubt that if I were to say "I'm native american", I would have a bunch of PC'ers coming after me.
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Well for instance, the Kangaroo is native to Australia, but the cow isn't. Just because a cow is born in Australia, it doesn't make it a native animal.

Same deal for humans.
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That gets confusing, and is improper. An American Indian would be someone in America, from, or whose parents were from, India.

If we are talking about political correctness, the term would be Indian-American for Americans who come from India, just like Irish-American or the like. I personally think that that's an asinine way of classifying things, as once a person is American, they are American. Indian isn't an ethnicity in that sense, it's a Nationality. It would be more correct to identify that group by their individual ethnicity.
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Well they are definitely not anything "Indian" as India is in ASIA.

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Well, I have no doubt that if I were to say "I'm native american", I would have a bunch of PC'ers coming after me.


That may be, all I'm saying is that the reason Americans aren't labeled as such is because it's not modern terminology.
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Well, they're called "native" because they were born here too. The first ones that came here weren't "native americans", so I don't see how it's different.



because they were here before the Europeans came and took over. so they are viewed as the natives, being here first and all.
#29
I think American Indian is quite insulting to them to be honest.

They only ever got called that because Columbus thought he was in India. There's as much Indian in them as there is in a white person.

If you don't like the term Native American learn their tribe names and call them by those.

They have more right to the title Native American than anyone else because they lived there for centuries before they were boxed up in "reservations"
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In Canada we say "Indeginious" now I think.


actually "First Nations" or "Aboriginal" are the acceptable terms

indeginious is also PC I guess though
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#31
do we still use african american or do we just call them nuggas?

really because now that i think about it i haven't heard that term in awhile. a lot of black peoples ancestrey dosen't even begin in africa anyway
#32
Well, I personally think that PC terms are stupid anyway. ALL OF THEM. People are people.
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I think American Indian is quite insulting to them to be honest.

They only ever got called that because Columbus thought he was in India. There's as much Indian in them as there is in a white person.

If you don't like the term Native American learn their tribe names and call them by those.

They have more right to the title Native American than anyone else because they lived there for centuries before they were boxed up in "reservations"

Wait, are you one of them? If not, how do you know what's "insulting" or not?


Their ancestors did, not the ones around today. They're not more a part of their tribal history than I am.
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If we are talking about political correctness, the term would be Indian-American for Americans who come from India, just like Irish-American or the like. I personally think that that's an asinine way of classifying things, as once a person is American, they are American. Indian isn't an ethnicity in that sense, it's a Nationality. It would be more correct to identify that group by their individual ethnicity.


But it is based on an incorrect preconcieved notion. Native American/Canadian works for me.
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really because now that i think about it i haven't heard that term in awhile. a lot of black peoples ancestrey dosen't even begin in africa anyway



care to enlighten me as to where black people come from then?

because i was under the impression that it was Africa or thereabout.
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do we still use african american or do we just call them nuggas?

really because now that i think about it i haven't heard that term in awhile. a lot of black peoples ancestrey dosen't even begin in africa anyway


the first person to say that was malcolm X

I believe in some peoples eyes "African American" is now frowned upon as well


and don't use that god damned word


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Well, I personally think that PC terms are stupid anyway. ALL OF THEM. People are people.


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If you don't like the term Native American learn their tribe names and call them by those.
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I agree with this statement, if one is to call them anything at all, other than human. The tribes are supposed to be sovereign anyway.

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care to enlighten me as to where black people come from then?

because i was under the impression that it was Africa or thereabout.

Yeah, but most of them here today aren't from africa. I have ancestors from all around europe, but I'm not european.
#39
Because using the term "Indian" is ignorant.

Hell, people in Columbus' time didn't call them Indians that much. People knew that Columbus didn't get to India, but to a new land, but Columbus died thinking he did.


Anyway, "Native American" is just used as a term to describe the original natives of America. That simple.

Yes, technically, anyone born here is a Native American, but it's just a better term than "Indian", because it doesn't sound like you failed 5th grade social studies.
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