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#41
My friend who owns a 6262 said you can literally get about ANY tone for ANY kind of music out of it with a couple of different stompboxes. That's why I decided this amp is for me. I wish somebody here owned a Bugera cab and could tell me what it sounds like.
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#42
Also, to answer the question of FischmungaXTR, V30's are a good all around speaker, and sound great for metal. Another good choice is the G12T-75. I'd put one of each in a 2x12, or two of each in an X pattern in a 4x12, though i do prefer Eminence speakers
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#43
Another question: Pronounced Boo-gair-uh?
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#44
That seems to be the consensus....but if its different, i'd like to figure that out
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#45
just got my 333xl a couple days ago. i got the bugera cab. i love the cleans, not a HUGE fan of the crunch channel and less im in the mood for some older stuff, and the lead is awesome, but im still looking for the perfect tone. maybe i'll put pictures up in the next day or two...
if everything keeps working i'll be happy.. but my friend and bandmate bought one and his blew after a couple weeks, so i dont know about the reliability. im thinking about taking it back, but i know theres nothing out there with this kind of quality for the money... only option i was considering was the b-52 at-100.. but i like this amp a lot better for just about the same price. i just dont know how reliable it is...
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#46
Well, like I said, I've been conversing with techs and alot of the problems seem to be user error (after all, lots of t00b n00bs are picking them up). I know some of them may have randomly died, but it really sounds like fuse problems in most cases, or tubes. I wonder if they are putting the wrong fuses?!? Could explain it maybe. I'm not sure. But I keep pouring over mine, and it seems to be in tip top shape. And its gonna get new tubes The 6262 seems to be the one with the most issues as far as I can tell. Best of luck to ya dude!


To the 333/333xl owners, could someone give us a good description of the sounds and features. I have yet to see one, let alone play it!
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#47
well the 333xl has three channels:
clean
crunch
and lead
each have their own individual eq with master volume, presence and reverb.
its got a built in noise gate,
a boost function (still trying to figure out exactly what it does, just appears to boost the volume)
two guitar inputs for low gain and high gain
comes with a footswitch with clean crunch lead and fx loop/boost
oh and its also got these 'xl' buttons which changes how it sounds in lower frequencies. i like them turned on, but cant notice too much of a difference.
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#48
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Well, like I said, I've been conversing with techs and alot of the problems seem to be user error (after all, lots of t00b n00bs are picking them up). I know some of them may have randomly died, but it really sounds like fuse problems in most cases, or tubes. I wonder if they are putting the wrong fuses?!? Could explain it maybe. I'm not sure. But I keep pouring over mine, and it seems to be in tip top shape. And its gonna get new tubes The 6262 seems to be the one with the most issues as far as I can tell. Best of luck to ya dude!


Mine suddenly started making this strange noise (kinda like static) and then blew the fuse. Blew a new fuse (same specs) right away. Probably tube problem? But meh, I don't know a thing about changing tubes, so I just sent it back and got a new one.
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#49
I will have my 6262 half stack delivered this Wed. or Thurs. I'm excited and worried all at the same time. I notice a lot of the messed up ones seem to be having power related issues. I have an excellent APC unit I'm going to be plugging mine into for power. I'm hoping this might at least help the situation a little bit. Maybe recommend that for others? They are kinda pricey at US$100 though...
#50
I'd love to try a 333XL and I considered ordering one, but buying an amp from Germany that I've never played didn't seem like a good idea, especially with all the horror stories about the reliability going around. The clips on YouTube sounded awesome though.
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#52
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Mine suddenly started making this strange noise (kinda like static) and then blew the fuse. Blew a new fuse (same specs) right away. Probably tube problem? But meh, I don't know a thing about changing tubes, so I just sent it back and got a new one.


Thats definitely power tube failure. Tubes are easy to replace, the hardest part is setting the bias, but thats really easy if you have a multimeter and a bias probe.
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#54
Eurotubes sells the weber bias probe. You just put it on the bottom of a power tube, and connect it to your multimeter. Bob even has a how to video on the eurotubes page, although it is a little simpler on a Bugera because you do not need to remove the chassis, because the bias pot is on top
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#55
I'll see if I can post pics when I do mine, so that I can make a step by step guide
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#57
Anybody else order anything Bugera from American Musical Supply? Seems to be the only place in the states that carries/stocks Bugera.
#59
Why do you need a bugera to ?
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#60
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Because I need something for studio work, and road work.
Bugera would probably be for road work, since it's cheap and can be thrown around, and the Rm100 will stay in the studio.
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#61
Sam Ash carries Bugera too.

By the way, I just recently emailed Bugera and told them how impressed with my 6260. I mentioned how well the thing was working out, for jazz, praise, and hardcore, and anything else I throw it.

Bugera emailed me back the next day, they seemed very responsive and friendly. They thought it was pretty cool that I was putting this thing up against a Mesa and other amps. They told me to keep in touch and to let them know if I had any ideas to improve the stuff in the future, and asked for my address and shirt size so that they could send me some free stuff. I'm not one to refuse free stuff.

I gotta say, they seem pretty cool, and I hope they continue with some new lines in the future.
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#62
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I gotta say, they seem pretty cool, and I hope they continue with some new lines in the future.



Hopefully.
They should really sort out the problems some people have been having first though. (Not trying to bash..)
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#63
True, but they are responsive, so I highly recommend people send their concerns to the company. They do sound like they wanna improve ad keep going.
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#64
@ Moe - it seems that the "issues" they are having you mention are mostly power related and a couple of tube issues. This seems about "normal" for any cheap Chinese made merchandise. When you factor in cost for tone, this amp cannot be beat right now. Not at 120 watts anyway...
#65
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@ Moe - it seems that the "issues" they are having you mention are mostly power related and a couple of tube issues. This seems about "normal" for any cheap Chinese made merchandise. When you factor in cost for tone, this amp cannot be beat right now. Not at 120 watts anyway...


But how much of that 120 watts do you really need?
I can assure you, people needing 120 watts of power for stadium gigs, can afford more than the Bugeras.

But hey, I see what you're saying.
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#66
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But how much of that 120 watts do you really need?
I can assure you, people needing 120 watts of power for stadium gigs, can afford more than the Bugeras.

But hey, I see what you're saying.


Yeah, 120 watts is way too much. But on the positive side, at least you won't be too quiet

I've been thinking of maybe pulling two of the power tubes in the future, but the speakers would have to be rewired since currently they're 16 ohm and that's also the max setting (6262 combo).
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#67
I've heard/read happy ending stories on switching out the speakers on the Bugera combo. That mod and some new tubes and wow. It just can't be beat. 120 watts is perfect for bedroom playing IMHO.

*Just got my 6262 half stack delivered. Works great. Tone is awesome. Best $700 I ever spent. Now to get some pedals and such.
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#68
Yeah, I love my Bugera to death. Got it back in March, along with my marshall 1960A. Sounds like a sweet setup to me. Does everything I want it to do perfect.


I got the 6262 cause I decided i wanted to be a bit versatile and be able to use cleans and what not with an independent eq for it. Other than that it's lasted me so far gonna play a show with it soon, which is good. Anyway I must say for the price it really can't be beaten as others have said.
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#69
Oh my God this thing IS REALLY LOUD for a practice bedroom amp. I almost feel stupid for thinking this would be a sane idea, almost . I think I'm gonna buy a Boss GT 10 later today and run it through the effects loop and hope for the best. I don't have a lot of money to get all the effects I'd like to hear through this amp. I hope I'll be happy with the GT 10.
#70
Buying a 6262 head in a few weeks.... which is more modern gain though? I am looking for a head that will do anything from clapton to like In Flames and in between....

Also buying a Vader 2x12 to match it....this will be sick

Cant wait to post some soundclips with the new studio i set up as well....SO excited...
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#71
The Lead channel on my 6262 is SICK. I LOVE the stock distortion. It's a more modern sound most definately. I borrowed some of my friends pedals to play with and WOW. Just freakin' WOW. I'm happy. I'm fairly poor so this is the best I can do and at least it's a F'N VALVE AMP. Bash away...Lol.
#72
Which would be the best choice for me: the 6260 combo or the 6262 combo?
I'm looking for that brutal 5150 tone and I've heard that the Bugera is a good clone worth the pricetag.
Also, how are the reliability, build quality etc. I've read about people having them break down and the build quality is supposed to be dodgy. But that could simply be people jumping the bandwagon because 'someone else sez so lol'-
So I thought it was best to ask here and get answers from people who actually own these amps.
#73
I would get one, but there's no way I'd use 120 watts. If/when they make an amp 50 watts or below, then I'll buy one. If the prices are this low for 120 watt amps, I wonder how cheap a 5 watt would be. Could blow the VJ out of the water.
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#74
^ The thing is, the VJ is class A, meaning it requires a huge transformer to power it, and stuff like that.

To clarify for everyone.

The 6260 is based on the 5150, so for Brendan.Clace, the distortion channel is A+ for nailing the melodic metal sound.

The 6262 is based on the 5150+, so slightly less gain, but more versatility. I will say though, even the 6260 is very versatile, and can do pretty much anything the 6262 can. Although having an eq on the clean might be nice.

To Guitarmike123...I would wholeheartedly recommend the 6260. I bought it because took the 5150 and made a few improvements (adjustable bias, MUCH better cleans, less fizzy gain; etc). Mine has had zero problems. I know there have been reports of problems, but much of it is band wagon (a friends, friends great aunts Bugera died) and the more I talk to techs, it seems that user error (t00b n00bs) is the biggest common denominator. Remember, it does have a year of warranty. So be smart and register your amp when you buy!! If you want the 5150 sound, you wont be sorry.

To pimpedoutsquier....you could have a tech pull two power tubes, giving you 60 watts of power, or use THD Yellow Jackets and EL-84s to drop down to around 30 watts (I think thats right)
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#75
Okay, that does it!

Def. Buying a 6262 in 2 weeks!!!!

Also... my Vader cab.... or should I go genz benz... GAH
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#76
The 333xl I tried was really noisy even with the inbuilt gate on 10. Are the 62XX series like that to?
And would you need an OD to tighten them up or are they fine by them selves?
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#77
They sound good by themselves...although an OD really tightens it up.

Now as for the noise gate on the 333, its like the one in a Peavey XXX, it only knocks out a little bit of noise. Get a real gate for the efx loop
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#78
I'd like to hear a 333XL. Those wern't in stock when I bought my 6262. I am happy with it though. No complaints, nothing blown up yet. *Knocks on wood*
#79
So, im confused.... the 6262 has slightly less gain than the 6260, but a nicer clean, plus an independant EQ?
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So, im confused.... the 6262 has slightly less gain than the 6260, but a nicer clean, plus an independant EQ?

Exactly.