#1
hi evryone just wondering whether it is possible to put a floyd rose on an sg

i imagine it would be tough as the joint on an sg isnt exactly super solid

i have just never seen one with a floyd rose so if any of you guys have please post pictures or a link

cheers
#2
What do you mean the joint isn't solid?

And, no don't put a FR on an SG, just buy a guitar with a FR...
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What do you mean the joint isn't solid?

And, no don't put a FR on an SG, just buy a guitar with a FR...

I agree, but do what you want.
#4
i don't know if anything new's come up, but the stetsbar was the best thing for an sg last i heard.

the sg body is too thin to actually house a floyd from what i understand
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#5
You could put one on, but it would require some routing.

If you really wanted one you'd be better off takeing it to a professoinal, unless you feel confident with your wood working abilities.

And even then, after you took it to a professional, you would have been better off(and it would probably cost you less) to just buy a new guitar.

Edit: and I didn't even consider the thinness of an SG.
#6
Yeah it's only 1 1/4 or... 1 1/2 inches thick I believe. Also it would require a lot of routing if the body was thick enough.

And stetsbars are retardedly expensive.
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You could, but there'd be a LOT of complications.
The SG body is very thin, don't know if a FR would actually fit in it.
The headstock is amazingly fragile, and i would never mess around with it.
You would lose a lot of tone and sustain.

Just buy a guitar with a FR, or if you have the money, Stetsbar.
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You could, but there'd be a LOT of complications.

Not at all.

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The SG body is very thin, don't know if a FR would actually fit in it.

It would fit, it has been done before.

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The headstock is amazingly fragile, and i would never mess around with it.

About as fragile as any other Gibson/Epiphone/Angled Headstock guitar.

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You would lose a lot of tone and sustain.

Have you fitted a floyd to a guitar like an SG before?
Obviously there is a slight change in tone compared to the original TOM Bridge due to the materials but the sustain doesn't really alter at all.
I know, I've done it to a few Les Pauls.


EDIT:
The SG Model was called the SG90 I believe?

http://www.everythingsg.com/images/identify/SG-%2790Double.jpg
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EDIT:
The SG Model was called the SG90 I believe?

http://www.everythingsg.com/images/identify/SG-%2790Double.jpg

That sure looks like a kahler to me.
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#11
The SG's way too thin.


And that trem's deffo a Kahler.
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#12
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hi evryone just wondering whether it is possible to put a floyd rose on an sg

i imagine it would be tough as the joint on an sg isnt exactly super solid

i have just never seen one with a floyd rose so if any of you guys have please post pictures or a link

cheers
kidding



Gibson's planning to release one. Here's a screencap before they pulled the announcement.



#13
I think that Screencap is fake, there are no locking nuts?

Anyway, Do your homework rather than expecting others to do it for you...
Sure, come ask for help, but come with some information too.

Examples would be going to the Floyd Rose site and looking at the routing depths and comparing it to the depth of your SG...

SG's have a neck angle right?
Also put that into your measurements, it means you don't have to have the bridge AS recessed.

having 1/8th of an inch is around what you want for the guitars actions which would be the only thing you'd have to worry about.
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Gibson's planning to release one. Here's a screencap before they pulled the announcement.





That look any more fake if it had a speech coming out of the guitar saying "Hello, I'm a fake screencap!"
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#15
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I think that Screencap is fake

aren't you the genius.

I've never seen an SG with a Floyd. I'm sure it's been tried, and I'm equally sure it didn't turn out well.
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Gibson's planning to release one. Here's a screencap before they pulled the announcement.




it say les paul on the head stock?
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#19
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aren't you the genius.

Well, aren't you the arrogant condescending twat?

When I posted that, i'm sure he didn't put in the "kidding" part and some people have VERY bad quality screencaps sometimes.
Even if it isn't the case, I was atleast trying to be helpful and gave some advice whereas you just said you hadn't seen one, basically copying what other people have said.
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That's just mean!

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Well, aren't you the arrogant condescending twat?

When I posted that, i'm sure he didn't put in the "kidding" part and some people have VERY bad quality screencaps sometimes.
Even if it isn't the case, I was atleast trying to be helpful and gave some advice whereas you just said you hadn't seen one, basically copying what other people have said.


Dude i think he was being sarcastic...

I'm sorry but you are the "arrogant condescending twat".

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#22
I made my original post in the spirit of the Most Annoying Thread Topic- "Can I put a FR on *insert guitar*?!? in the 2007 GB&C Poll - https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?p=12853476#post12853476

The kidding, in the top right corner was part of the original post, note the post does not have an edited by: entry.

WH15P3R made the correct original observation about the lack of the locking nut, so I edited the picture, but left the LesPaul in the headstock.

Gents, there was no intention to cause/start a p!ssing war. My apologies.

#23
^ that pic is definitely from that kisekae website isn't it...

but yeah, with my limited knowledge about floyds, the sg body would do better without one.
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#25
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That sure looks like a kahler to me.


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The SG's way too thin.


And that trem's deffo a Kahler.


Apologies for my late reply...

It's a Steinberger Trem system, I was looking the SG90/X up and it was discontinued because the trem post's weren't strong enough and either snapped at the post or the trem post inserts bent after the post's were changed to be stronger.

Edit:
Reading up again, this trem system was like the new Ibanez Zero Edge trem, as it had the ability to adjust the trem system's springs by a post or screw & it also had the ability to make a dive-only option & a trem stop system too.
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#26
i believe SGs had "les paul" on them in the 60's, until les paul told them to take his name off of them.

I think the best thing for an SG would be a kahler, only a 1 inch route.
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#27
ok ty everyone for the comments

i draw guitars in my science lessons (what else are they for?) and i like them to be possible (just in case one day i get the chance to make them)

i think the kahler is the way to go if you want a locking trem
and i dont know about anyone else but just imagine an sg with 24 frets and a locking trem....(oh and a pair of EMGs or blackouts)
#28
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ok ty everyone for the comments

i draw guitars in my science lessons (what else are they for?) and i like them to be possible (just in case one day i get the chance to make them)

i think the kahler is the way to go if you want a locking trem
and i dont know about anyone else but just imagine an sg with 24 frets and a locking trem....(oh and a pair of EMGs or blackouts)

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-SG-CustomEX-with-EMG-8185-Pickups-Electric-Guitar?sku=515622

Buy one of these, a vibrato system & £40'ish and I'll fit a floyd rose to that no problem.
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#29
I'd go for a Kahler. With the amount of wood you remove from the body, you'll lose quite a bit of sustain with the Floyd. For SG's, Kahler>FR.
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I'd go for a Kahler. With the amount of wood you remove from the body, you'll lose quite a bit of sustain with the Floyd. For SG's, Kahler>FR.

No you won't really lose any sustain!
Kahler's also have tuning instability on string bends.
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#31
^true on the string bending part with the Kahler. It all depends what you want really.
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#32
kahlers only have stability issues with tuning if you want them too, if you know how to set one up properly, you have no issues, also if you do like a 2.5 step bend, you will have tuning issues anyways, its just with a kahler you can correct it with a quick slap to the whammy. no one ever bends the ball ends of the strings when they set up a kahler tremolo, and that is why the issue exists, it clearly states in the directions for a setup to bend the ball end of the string about 30 degrees.
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#33
get the kahler that attaches to the TOM posts- no route at all! and as for going out of tune, God said let there be locking tuners!
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#34
you do have to route my friend, 1 inch deep. ive installed a few. you would also experience extreme tuning problems because of the nut, locking tuners wont cut it. you need a graphite nut and vaseline every few days in order to stand a chance, or the string-lock kahler offers is fair. its not the best, but it works. id say its up there with a real locking nut.
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#35
even for the one that attaches to the posts for the tune o matic it replaces?
*note to self- sue kahler for false advertising*
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#36
i dont remember them advertising that there is NO ROUTING required for their tremolos.
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#37
they do... the one that they say attaches to TOM posts-the 2200- "requires routing only on carved tops" unless im misreading, which knowing me, i am....
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#39
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i believe SGs had "les paul" on them in the 60's, until les paul told them to take his name off of them.

I think the best thing for an SG would be a kahler, only a 1 inch route.

They also had LES PAUL written on a plate down by the neck pickup.
#40
interesting, didnt see that, i did have an ancient gibson SG shape with les paul on the headstock come into the shop, perplexed me, had to call customer support and talk to someone way up with some knowledge.
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