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Last Friday, I went to a guitar competition and brought along my Vox Valvetronix XL-30VT. Everything was great, I won and everything, but after the competition, we did a big jam... then I ran into my problem. A Randall stack. My amp couldn't cut through at all and if I turned it up loud enough to actually cut through, there was more feedback than music.

So, long story short, I'm starting to gig and everything so I need to step it up a notch. My budget is no higher than $500, and that's still pushing it. I play mostly (very heavy)metal and classic rock. So far, I've been looking at a Peavey Valveking 112 Combo and a Crate Flexwave FW120. I know the Valveking is probably more of what I need but I figured I should ask. So, what is your opinion?
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#2
ValveKing's are pretty good

but if you're playing really heavy stuff then the VK falls a tad bit short. It can almost do it, but not quite. I'm not sure what the concensus around here about how it would sound with a TubeScreamer in front of it.

I have one and it's great. But for super heavy stuff, it comes up short

never really tried the FlexWave though
#3
Ok, thanks.

I was watching videos of the Valveking and it seemed to do pretty good with heavy stuff, I found a good video of Duality - Slipknot(not my kind of music, but it's heavy). If it doesn't suit me I could always get a good pedal though. From your experience, about how heavy can it go stock.
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#4
I could play Raining Blood and it sounded ok through an Epi Les Paul standard

I think if you have anything heavier than that, or something with EMG's in it then you might blow out the speaker

actually I found out if you have high output pickups then you're supposed to use the 2nd input

thought that I'd share that
#5
Replace the speaker and its an excellent amp. Refer to my sig to see what the VK can do with a speaker swap.
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#6
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I could play Raining Blood and it sounded ok through an Epi Les Paul standard

I think if you have anything heavier than that, or something with EMG's in it then you might blow out the speaker

actually I found out if you have high output pickups then you're supposed to use the 2nd input

thought that I'd share that


That should be fine then, I don't need "insane" distortion, but pretty heavy, about like early Cannibal Corpse.

I have pretty standard LP pickups so I doubt I'll have trouble with the speaker.

I think that's pretty much a general rule for Peavey amps with two inputs, of course I've only played two Peaveys.

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Replace the speaker and its an excellent amp. Refer to my sig to see what the VK can do with a speaker swap.


Wow that does sound good, what speaker would you recommend for metal?
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#7
Well I put a vintage 30 in and I love it. One user found he preferred G12-75s in his 212 though, I think it was BleedDeathMetal.
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#9
I'm afraid my knowledge only runs with Celestion, so there may be better brands for your styles...

I would suggest a vintage 30 again or possibly a G12H, though that's a more 70's sound. It really depends on how you dial in your tone ofc. What's your EQ?
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#11
Right. Now your treble is high, but I believe that's due to the muddiness of the POS speaker you have in there.

If you like a lot of top end sparkle then the V30 or G12T-75 is for you.
If you're looking for a more punchy midrange sort of sound then I'd go with the G12H.

There's a handy tone selector thing on Celestion's website that can help you, though looking at it they seem to recommend V30's for everything.

http://professional.celestion.com/guitar/features/tone/index.asp
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