#1
I'm finally ready to take guitar seriously, and it's time to gear up! I'm working with roughly $1200 (though if I can save money here and there, that would rock). I need the guitar itself, a head, and half cab.

I can't think of who better to ask than a bunch of people who are probably using the very stuff i've been looking at.

For the head/cab i've been looking at some Line 6 stuff. Primarily the Line 6 Spider III HD150 and a matching cab. Any comments or concerns there? As said before, i'm new to all of this and I want something I can have for a while. I don't want to cheap out on such an important piece of equipment but cost is also a factor.

As for the guitar, I'd like to play metal/post-hardcore/metalcore/etc type music. I was originally looking at the Gibson SG Faded, but some friends suggested I look into Jackson and Ibanez for that particular genre of music. I want something comfortable to play, and I hear the term "fast neck" a lot and don't quite understand what it means. I also don't know too much about pickups or their placement, and wasn't sure if one company excelled over others in that department.

Anyway, i'd greatly appreciate any and all advice, criticism, or comments regarding the matter. I'm hoping to purchase something within a few weeks so I can get to learning.
#2
Stay away from Spiders, they aren't worth the money.

What are you looking for sound wise?


What are you looking for in a guitar?

Do you want a thick neck or a thin neck?

Do you like the humbucker sound or do you want single coils?

Do you need a tremolo system?
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#3
you dont need a halfstack, espeically if your abeginner. get a tube amp. it'll be completely worth it.

tube combo's > ss halfstacks

07 Fender American Deluxe Strat
07 Fender Custom Telecaster
09 Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster
09 Fulltone OCD V.4
10 Ibanez WH-10 V.2
09 Splawn SuperStock
10 Jet City JCA-20
97 Fender Hot Rod Deluxe

Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.

#4
its nay on the spider, look into peavey's 5150, or 6505

as for the guitar, look into schecters, good metal guitars at a good price

Epiphone Les Paul Standard Plus-Top, SH-2 and SH-5
Ibanez GRX20
Baron Acoustic
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 15
Dunlop Crybaby From Hell
Dunlop GCB-95 Crybaby
Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
Boss PH-3 Phase Shifter
Boss BF-3 Flanger
#7
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Stay away from Spiders, they aren't worth the money.

What are you looking for sound wise?

I suppose a metal/post-hardcore sound if that answers the question. Distortion or just really crunchy. That was kinda what I envisioned at least.

What are you looking for in a guitar?

Certainly comfort and looks are important, but quality of sound over all else.

Do you want a thick neck or a thin neck?

I'd assume thin is easier to cruise around the neck with... but that's one of those things that i'm just not sure about. I played a few Jackson's and a couple Ibanez today, and the ibanez almost seemed to have too thin a neck, but the Jacksons were thin without being too thin I suppose.

Do you like the humbucker sound or do you want single coils?

From what I read in the FAQ, i'd say humbuckers.

Do you need a tremolo system?

I really have no idea


Ultimately after trying about a half a dozen guitars today, I left as confused as when I went into the shop...
#8
Quote by jburnett207
Esp guitars yo


I didn't even try one at the shop today cause they are so expensive. I was afraid i'd really want one afterwards. Same reason I didn't pick up a Les Paul.
#9
well lol this is a huge coincedence but im in the exact situation as you price and all. What i would suggest is play a spider 3 it was originally what i was going to get but it sounds terrible. I would suggest a Marshall half stack its nice and still has effects like the line 6. Guitar wise i would suggest either the epiphone prophecy SG if you really want an SG or a Jackson DKMG dinky it has nice pickups and a floyd rose.
#10
Quote by qstionauthority
seriously, Spiders are for noobs. i wish I had 1200 bucks to spend on stuff... like a flying rabbit


1200 sounds like a lot till you actually go to spend it... doesn't seem to go all that far
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well lol this is a huge coincedence but im in the exact situation as you price and all. What i would suggest is play a spider 3 it was originally what i was going to get but it sounds terrible. I would suggest a Marshall half stack its nice and still has effects like the line 6. Guitar wise i would suggest either the epiphone prophecy SG if you really want an SG or a Jackson DKMG dinky it has nice pickups and a floyd rose.


Go go gadget economic stimulus check? haha
#12
by the neck description and needs of a guitar, id say go with a ltd of some sort. Obviously im biased because I use one, but my past guitars were an ibanez rg with a wizard neck, and a Jackson slsmg with a thin Jackson neck. I find that the ltd models have a very comfortable neck. It's not bulky and not too thin feeling like I felt the Wizard prestige to be. gl
#13
Quote by d_byrne23
by the neck description and needs of a guitar, id say go with a ltd of some sort. Obviously im biased because I use one, but my past guitars were an ibanez rg with a wizard neck, and a Jackson slsmg with a thin Jackson neck. I find that the ltd models have a very comfortable neck. It's not bulky and not too thin feeling like I felt the Wizard prestige to be. gl


LTD is made by ESP right? Honestly, I didn't even check them out... but thanks! I'm going out again Wed to check out more stuff... so the more suggestions I get, the better

and from the sounds of it, the Spiders aren't amazing heads. How about Marshall? I always thought and heard they were tops. Perhaps I can find a used head in the price range i'm looking at.
#14
Quote by Muffin Murderer
well lol this is a huge coincedence but im in the exact situation as you price and all. What i would suggest is play a spider 3 it was originally what i was going to get but it sounds terrible. I would suggest a Marshall half stack its nice and still has effects like the line 6. Guitar wise i would suggest either the epiphone prophecy SG if you really want an SG or a Jackson DKMG dinky it has nice pickups and a floyd rose.



No... Just... No...


In all seriousness. If you go used, you'll get A LOT more for your money.

Look into Schecters, they're very good for the price and you can get some really nice guitars from them used for a lot less than something comparable from other brands. LTD is also worth a look into, but only the 400 series or higher. Ibanez are also worth a look into, I'd suggest anything really from the SZ series to you. The SZ series neck is thicker than the Ibanez you probably played and I have a feeling would feel more comfortable to you. The reason I suggest a hard-tail is, since you seem to never have used a trem (Floyd Rose, Edge, etc) before, I would definitely vote against using one if you're a beginner. They can be a huge hassle and not something you want when just starting out.
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#15
if you have 1200 to spend, purchase a peavey 5150 or a peavey 212, and a Jackson Dinky DKMG

just what i suggest.
#16
Avoid Spiders like the plague. They are horrible.
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Same with Marshall MGs!
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That is a wonderful quote, I gotta sig that!
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#24
Kinda had my heart set on a head/cab and not a combo amp. Although, if there are any reasons why that may not be the best idea, by all means, i'd love to hear them.
#28
Quote by reachthesky
Kinda had my heart set on a head/cab and not a combo amp. Although, if there are any reasons why that may not be the best idea, by all means, i'd love to hear them.



Because most Halfstacks under $1000 are crap.

They are overkill for most bars/clubs/places a band would play

They take up more space, and harder to lug around

AND they dont make your penis bigger....
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#31
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Because most Halfstacks under $1000 are crap.

They are overkill for most bars/clubs/places a band would play

They take up more space, and harder to lug around

AND they dont make your penis bigger....


ok, well let's say I bump up my budget and can afford 1000... i've always been for overkill :P
#32
Quote by reachthesky
ok, well let's say I bump up my budget and can afford 1000... i've always been for overkill :P


Would you be willing to look used?
#33
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Would you be willing to look used?


certainly would. I just wouldn't know where to start. brand/model/specs/etc.
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#36
Quote by reachthesky
ok, well let's say I bump up my budget and can afford 1000... i've always been for overkill :P

If you're buying used. You can get a decent halfstack for $1000. New, expect to shell out around $2000 or more for something of the same quality.

That RG50TC stangconv linked before will be louder than the Line 6 stack you were looking at before and be 20x better sounding. This will also leave your budget open for a nicer guitar, which when you're a beginner, for some reason is the thing people want to be awesome looking, even if they can't play it and their amp sounds like complete crap.

If you want an amp that will last you a long time look into used:

Peavey 5150
Peavey JSX
Peavey XXX
Carvin X100B
Carvin V3
Mesa F-30/F-50
Mesa DC-3/DC-5

Or new:

Randall RG50TC
Peavey Valveking
Peavey Windsor
B-52 AT

If you must get a halfstack, Peavey cabs are generally not that great for the price. Marshall 1960s are pretty much the standard, but there's better. For speakers, you're probably going to want Celestion Vintage 30s, G12T-75s or Eminence Legends. If you stick to any of those speakers you'll be fine.
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#37
Checkout UberProAudio.com to see what your favorite musician's use for gear. You'll be surprised that a lot of pro's use stuff that is pretty affordable. May give you some ideas of what to try.....
#39
spiders give you tone herpes, and no one wants that
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