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You've probably heard of blood diamonds...

Did you know that many of the products we use every day; cell phones, musical instruments, computers and more, use products from a war-torn country where women are beaten and raped as a form of military tactic?

These tactics go beyond rape to sexual mutilation - objects are forced into the vagina to destroy the uterus, guns have been fired into women's vaginas, etc.

The violence is intended to leave the women alive, ruined, mutilated and useless to their culture - shunned and forgotten. The surgery to repair the damage can take years, it is delicate and there is a long waiting list.

Many will never conceive, some will be unable to have intercourse with their husbands again, and still more will be incontinent. This is not meant to shock you, this is the truth.

When I heard this I wanted to throw up. But what did I do instead?

I decided to make this thread, and tell you about a film that as many people as possible need to see:

The Greatest Silence

We can choose not to purchase diamonds, we can decide what gas to buy or where to buy our groceries, but none of us has the option to stop using modern technology, technology that depends on minerals mined almost exclusively in Congo. The market for these materials stokes the flames of this brutality. Without it capacitors, and thus processors, phones, computers and even guitar amplifiers cannot be made.

We have the power to stop it, but the first step is listening, watching, and making ourselves aware that this nightmare is happening.

Thank you for clicking and reading this.

If you know more, please share. I only learned of this earlier today on the Diane Rehm Show.

Now you know...
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#2
If this is true, I'm definitely supporting it, thanks a bunch TS, this made me want to puke
#3
As a continuation of this, it's also worth it to read King Leopold's Ghost, which talks about how Belgium manipulated the rest of the Western European powers to take control of the single largest colony in Africa - the Congo - and the horrors that followed as Belgium became the world's number one supplier of rubber through its harvesting in the Congo. It's estimated that more Congolese died during the Belgian rubber harvesting period than did Jews and other "social undesirables" during the Holocaust.
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Did you know that many of the products we use every day; cell phones, musical instruments, computers and more, use products from a war-torn country where women are beaten and raped as a form of military tactic?




like what? just curious.
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It's estimated that more Congolese died during the Belgian rubber harvesting period than did Jews and other "social undesirables" during the Holocaust.
And more war dead during the more recent conflict than in World War II.

Why isn't this front page news?!
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These tactics go beyond rape to sexual mutilation - objects are forced into the vagina to destroy the uterus, guns have been fired into women's vaginas, etc.




What.....The......Fuck!
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And more war dead during the more recent conflict than in World War II.

Why isn't this front page news?!

Because they're not people.

I, of course, don't actually mean that, but that's the world view on Africa and has been for almost a half dozen centuries.
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#9
I... Really cant believe that actually goes on in this day and age.

Ive been sheltered :S
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#10
Thanks for sharing - I'll keep my eye out for the film...
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#11
that's horrific. and i just watched blood diamond for the first time last weekend. which is also sad.
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like what? just curious.
Pretty much anything involving a capacitor:

Cell phones, PDA's, computers, amplifiers, BlackBerry's and so on.
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Pretty much anything involving a capacitor:

Cell phones, PDA's, computers, amplifiers, BlackBerry's and so on.



i mean what materials. what are they mining?
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i mean what materials. what are they mining?


Cobalt I think
#15
This is the stuff: "tantalite - coltan for short"

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The substance for sale wasn't cocaine or top-grade opium. It was an ore called Columbite-tantalite - coltan for short - one of the world's most sought-after materials. Refine coltan and you get a highly heat-resistant metal powder called tantalum. It sells for $100 a pound, and it's becoming increasingly vital to modern life. For the high-tech industry, tantalum is magic dust, a key component in everything from mobile phones made by Nokia (NOK) and Ericsson and computer chips from Intel (INTC) to Sony (SNE) stereos and VCRs.
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#16
I honestly feel sick to my stomach after reading this. Thanks for posting this TS, it opened at least one pair of eyes.
EDIT: lol, my girlfriend is gonna get a cz engagement ring
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#18
Thats pretty brutal, but i'm not shocked by it al all. In alot of Africa civil war conflicts, huge amounts of bloodshed and torture are used by both sides of the conflict due to simple-minded and bloodthirsty warlords.

Lets name a few:

1. Deliberate starvation by warlords over the masses to control voting or kill off opponents, while the warlord basks in riches, while little innocent kids die from malnourishment and disease.
2. Innocent people having BOTH hands chopped off for being in the wrong place at the wrong time with machetes without any medical attention or sedative.
3. Women being ganged raped, then hung/shot for no reason, or if allowed to live, are given forced and brutal abortions without any anasthetic or medical treatment
4. Children, some no more than a few weeks old, getting killed (shot, curb-stomped or grabbed by the ankles and smashed head first into a wall) because of there parents or the town they live in.
5. Whole families being massacred by men armed with machetes
6. Kids stolen from their homes, brainwashed, beaten, raped and high of drugs and given AK47's and told to fight or get shot themselfs.


Many more. These events aint just happening in Congo. They're happening in places like Sudan, Kenya etc. Understand that.
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EDIT: lol, my girlfriend is gonna get a cz engagement ring

You can find places that have conflict-free diamonds.
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#20
Quote by Bubonic Chronic
You've probably heard of blood diamonds...

Did you know that many of the products we use every day; cell phones, musical instruments, computers and more, use products from a war-torn country where women are beaten and raped as a form of military tactic?
These tactics go beyond rape to sexual mutilation - objects are forced into the vagina to destroy the uterus, guns have been fired into women's vaginas, etc.

The violence is intended to leave the women alive, ruined, mutilated and useless to their culture - shunned and forgotten. The surgery to repair the damage can take years, it is delicate and there is a long waiting list.

Many will never conceive, some will be unable to have intercourse with their husbands again, and still more will be incontinent. This is not meant to shock you, this is the truth.

When I heard this I wanted to throw up. But what did I do instead?

I decided to make this thread, and tell you about a film that as many people as possible need to see:

The Greatest Silence

We can choose not to purchase diamonds, we can decide what gas to buy or where to buy our groceries, but none of us has the option to stop using modern technology, technology that depends on minerals mined almost exclusively in Congo. The market for these materials stokes the flames of this brutality. Without it capacitors, and thus processors, phones, computers and even guitar amplifiers cannot be made.

We have the power to stop it, but the first step is listening, watching, and making ourselves aware that this nightmare is happening.

Thank you for clicking and reading this.

If you know more, please share. I only learned of this earlier today on the Diane Rehm Show.

Now you know...

Ok theres terrible things happening in this country, but why does buying products from this country make military personnel want to do this stuff to women. Can someone explain how these things are correlated? I mean terrible things happen in all kinds of different places, but how would buying products from a country where this is happening cause more things to happen?
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#21
Yeah, but I think it's going to take some work finding a distributor not in league with De Beers. After the Belgian takeover I have no desire to contribute to them in any way.

But I think Canada mines diamonds of decent quality, I'll check it out.
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Quote by Dirk Gently
As a continuation of this, it's also worth it to read King Leopold's Ghost, which talks about how Belgium manipulated the rest of the Western European powers to take control of the single largest colony in Africa - the Congo - and the horrors that followed as Belgium became the world's number one supplier of rubber through its harvesting in the Congo. It's estimated that more Congolese died during the Belgian rubber harvesting period than did Jews and other "social undesirables" during the Holocaust.


+1

I was gonna mention the Belgium thing. Not very nice of them. Completely crippled the nation.
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#23
Although I reside in Missouri, I work along the west coast of Africa as a ship captain. I've not been to Congo yet, but may well have to go there one day. Of all the cell phones I've seen in Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon (where I am now), Cameroon, none to my knowledge were made in the Congo. Thats just laughable. Most cell phones in this area come from China. This area is notorious for Chinese copies of Nokias, Samsungs, et al. A Cell Phone would be too technologically advanced an item to be made in this general area. Just about everything is imported here that makes a noise or has lights on it. I'm not disputing that women are inhumanely treated in Congo, but cell phones made there? I'd have to see that to believe it.Oh, and Blood Diamonds was an excellent movie.
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Although I reside in Missouri, I work along the west coast of Africa as a ship captain. I've not been to Congo yet, but may well have to go there one day. Of all the cell phones I've seen in Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon (where I am now), Cameroon, none to my knowledge were made in the Congo. Thats just laughable. Most cell phones in this area come from China. This area is notorious for Chinese copies of Nokias, Samsungs, et al. A Cell Phone would be too technologically advanced an item to be made in this general area. Just about everything is imported here that makes a noise or has lights on it. I'm not disputing that women are inhumanely treated in Congo, but cell phones made there? I'd have to see that to believe it.Oh, and Blood Diamonds was an excellent movie.


The raw materials are mined there. The actual products will be made elsewhere.
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that is teh ****ed. truly. I go out week after week looking for vagina and hear they are destroying them right and left. who would do that? god africa sucks.
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The raw materials are mined there. The actual products will be made elsewhere.


I can believe that. I found a site that tells a lot about the country: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cg.html
Also, there is: The Democratic Republic of Congo, and, The Republic of Congo, two separate but neighboring countries. These two countries are just south of my current location.
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And more war dead during the more recent conflict than in World War II.

Why isn't this front page news?!


Because that's not true. It was a horrendous conflict, and I'm not disputing that it was horrifically bloody, but the death toll paled in comparison with that of WW2.

And yeah, areas of the Congo are close to hell on Earth. Due to its immense size, many areas are essentially frontiers, meaning that you basically do what the people with guns say or they shoot you. If you're lucky, it might not piss off the other people with guns, but if you're unlucky, they'll come along later and they'll shoot you.

You might wanna know that many governments of the 'good' countries such as the UK, the US etc. propped up the murderous regime that the Congo had after independence, and during the aforementioned Second Congo War, supplied arms to both sides. Not to mention they failed to stop the genocide in Rwanda without which the war may never have happened.

What's happened in the Congo is a scar on the conscience of the world.

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Ok theres terrible things happening in this country, but why does buying products from this country make military personnel want to do this stuff to women. Can someone explain how these things are correlated? I mean terrible things happen in all kinds of different places, but how would buying products from a country where this is happening cause more things to happen?


A large demand for these materials = money flowing into the country, which = money going to the government. The government spends on the army, and makes sure that it keeps the areas where the products are mined 'stable'. It doesn't care how it does this, and turns a blind eye to the atrocities carried out. After all, they keep the mining areas 'stable', which means a higher output, and therefore more money flowing into the country, and so on and so forth.
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#29
exactly why i got angry today at a substitute history teacher who was preaching about genocide and went on talking about nothing but the Holocaust in my History class today....

it's terrible that things like this have to go on in order for businesses to function properly, it shows how disgusting human beings can truly be, but in the grand scheme of things...it'll never end. as unfortunate as it is to hear, there will almost always be a war stricken nation in this world, it's damn near impossible to generate complete peace.

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Because that's not true. It was a horrendous conflict, and I'm not disputing that it was horrifically bloody, but the death toll paled in comparison with that of WW2.


i believe they were talking about only the Holocaust not WWII in it's entirety.
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#30
what will seeing the film do? If we stop buying diamonds, stop buying gas (sorta unrelated) and all that other ****.. It wont keep their vagina's from blowing up
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Because that's not true. It was a horrendous conflict, and I'm not disputing that it was horrifically bloody, but the death toll paled in comparison with that of WW2.
Okay, fair enough. I don't know that from personal experience.

But if you disagree with that statement, then contact my sources and tell them that they are mistaken.



I could be wrong. I'm just a guy in a chair with a keyboard.
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Ok theres terrible things happening in this country, but why does buying products from this country make military personnel want to do this stuff to women. Can someone explain how these things are correlated? I mean terrible things happen in all kinds of different places, but how would buying products from a country where this is happening cause more things to happen?
its a metal called coltan that is used in pretty much all electronics. there are great reserves of it in the congo. and its very hard to source, so it could be coming from any number of shady places, unlike diamonds, which are harder to track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

aparently, its had more deaths than any armed conflict since WW2. the sad thing is that no one knows about it, or cares about it. africa is easy to ignore.
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aparently, its had more deaths than any armed conflict since WW2. the sad thing is that no one knows about it, or cares about it. africa is easy to ignore.
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#34
You guys hadn't heard about this?

I've seen/heard this several times in the past year. It's horrible. Some are raped and killed, while others are forced into prostitution to pay for the resource-gathering operations.

It's a horrible thing that should be stopped by someone.
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#35
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When I heard this I wanted to throw up.



what the hell is wrong with people.... that is hot not disgusting, when i read this article i can only think "Sweet, my computer isnt powered by electricty, its powered by rape" and that is the kinda computer i want to use. and if you want to put a stop to the genocide and stuff, just give them all xbox 360's

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#37
Not to be a prick or anything, but the thread title sounds like a really good porno.
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#39
To be honest, I don't really give a damn how my possessions are produced, as long as they're of high quality.
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what the hell is wrong with people.... that is hot not disgusting, when i read this article i can only think "Sweet, my computer isnt powered by electricty, its powered by rape" and that is the kinda computer i want to use. and if you want to put a stop to the genocide and stuff, just give them all xbox 360's

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