Poll: Reverend Wright's Statements were...
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36 30%
Racist and offensive.
43 36%
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14 12%
Truthful, for the most part.
26 22%
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#1
I actually watched all of his NAACP conference, and the press club, and his sermons. The only thing I heard that was out of line was the comment about AIDS which he yanked from some books he read.

We did invite the 9/11 attacks through our foreign policy, not because of the decadence of our society or our freedoms

Black people have gotten consistently screwed when it comes to access to education, police presence, access to city services, access to home loans (even government ones dating as far back as the 40's).

The judicial system is super racist (white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats)

What exactly pisses people off so much?

Edit: this thread would be better with a survey... Done and done.
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What exactly pisses people off so much?


For me it's wasps.
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#3
what people are really upset about is that there is someone so outspoken and un politically correct
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For me it's wasps.


That was either a clever socio-economic group based joke, or a typical pit statement. Either way it was funny. *tips hat* Well done good sir!
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#5
i like him beacuse he upset every1

their just trying to find something on Obama and this is it
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I actually watched all of his NAACP conference, and the press club, and his sermons. The only thing I heard that was out of line was the comment about AIDS which he yanked from some books he read.

We did invite the 9/11 attacks through our foreign policy, not because of the decadence of our society or our freedoms

Black people have gotten consistently screwed when it comes to access to education, police presence, access to city services, access to home loans (even government ones dating as far back as the 40's).

The judicial system is super racist (white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats)

What exactly pisses people off so much?

Edit: this thread would be better with a survey... Done and done.

white people hide their drug use better, that's all.
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That was either a clever socio-economic group based joke, or a typical pit statement. Either way it was funny. *tips hat* Well done good sir!


The first one


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#9
Fat people that complain about fatty foods.
People that associate a certain race with a sterotype.
Wiggers. (the "american" version of the chav or whatever)
Parents that shelter and baby their kids.
Teachers who can't teach.
Hippocrites.
Certain races that complain about their current situation. I know, blaim the white people.
*ringing in at my all time favorite*
Those who are irrational and make stupid comments just to conform to the cliche nature of what this world has started to become. I praise those of you who take a stand, speak your mind and do what you want.
People that lack even the basic common sense.

Thats what pissed me off you nappy-headed hoe.


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The first one


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For me it's wasps.


hahaha, that made me laugh, made my day that did (i have had a pretty boring day) thanks Kensai!!!
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#12
he basically said he hates america and everything that happened to the black people that's bad was because of america. you can have your opinion on everythign and all but if you're living in my country you don't need to talk bad about it and be all for africa. if africa is so good then go live there. he just doesn't realize all the good things in america. oh and i don't think religion should even play a factor in determining who is president. that has nothing to do with running a country.
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he basically said he hates america and everything that happened to the black people that's bad was because of america. you can have your opinion on everythign and all but if you're living in my country you don't need to talk bad about it and be all for africa. if africa is so good then go live there. he just doesn't realize all the good things in america. oh and i don't think religion should even play a factor in determining who is president. that has nothing to do with running a country.


Well, that may be so, but what did he say that's wrong besides the AIDS thing? He also didn't say anything about africa being great to my knowledge, and africa isn't a country. You still haven't addressed the existence of structural racism in our system that pisses him off so much.

Is it possible to criticize american government policy angrily without being said to hate america?

Seriously, watch the full press conferences.

ps. this dude served 2 tours in vietnam. :-/
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#14
Quote by bullets34
I actually watched all of his NAACP conference, and the press club, and his sermons. The only thing I heard that was out of line was the comment about AIDS which he yanked from some books he read.

We did invite the 9/11 attacks through our foreign policy, not because of the decadence of our society or our freedoms

Black people have gotten consistently screwed when it comes to access to education, police presence, access to city services, access to home loans (even government ones dating as far back as the 40's).

The judicial system is super racist (white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats)

What exactly pisses people off so much?

Edit: this thread would be better with a survey... Done and done.


Rev. Wright is just another wanna be Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. They are radical lefts who are double standard, reverse discriminative, retards. They blame the dysfunction of the Black Community for the past half century. Wright is just the 21st Century version of Jackson and Sharpton.

Wright and Company just refuse to accept that it may just be the black community's fault that they aren't getting anywhere.
I mean, the Black Radicals have no full and conclusive evidence that it is the white community's fault, although they play it out to be as such. For instance, they constantly bring back the 2 century old topic of slavery. And if that isn't enough, many of the radicals demand that their community be reprimanded for the "damages inflicted upon our/their ancestors".

And to counter argue their points, it's not like there hasn't been a successful black person. There has been many politically successful ones.

So, Wright was wrong, immorally and politically, this country would be better with out extremists like him.

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white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats

Maybe it's because White people aren't retarded enough to get caught
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That was either a clever socio-economic group based joke, or a typical pit statement. Either way it was funny. *tips hat* Well done good sir!


It's Kensai, it's an outwardly pit statement, but inside, it is a subliminal political statement cause Kensai's from the government.
#16
Quote by bullets34
Well, that may be so, but what did he say that's wrong besides the AIDS thing? He also didn't say anything about africa being great to my knowledge, and africa isn't a country. You still haven't addressed the existence of structural racism in our system that pisses him off so much.

Is it possible to criticize american government policy angrily without being said to hate america?

Seriously, watch the full press conferences.

ps. this dude served 2 tours in vietnam. :-/

it's all a matter of perception. i'm not denying or doubting there is racism in our system and yes you have a right to be angry. and also the media does blow things out of porportion. i'm just sick and tired of this affirmative action and if something even remotely racist happens to black people it's a huge deal but for everyoen else it's not. idk
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#17
He was an ass but I don't think anything he said was particularly out of line.
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#18
[history lesson]
You can blame black people for their misfortunes. It's all a huge chain of events that dates back to slavery. When slavery ended a lot of the former slaves went to the cities to find jobs because they didnt have money to start up a farm.

The white people there that owned businesses did not want to hire blacks because they were racist, and even the nonracists didnt hire them because they didnt want to lose their business from arrogant shoppers or racists to burn their store down. So, blacks didn't get good jobs.

So they had no choice but to eventually sell drugs. They turned to gangs and such and big organizations were formed. Good schools weren't made because they figured all the innercity kids would just turn to the gangs.
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So, ya.

It's the white man's fault.

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#19
it makes me mad, but i really don't care if anyone's racist, so long as they don't actually do anything to anyone. i don't think people should freak out about what the preacher said, but i think it's a bad idea to vote for Obama, seeing as how he went to church there for a while. actually, it's a bad idea to vote for him in the first place.
i think he's a retard for condemning what Reverend Wright said. he went there for twenty years or whatever it was (?), obviously he has no problem with the guy and agrees with him, the only reason he's condemning him is because there's an election. Obama ftl.
#20
If you watched that, and are familiar with any of his previous sermons, you can't help but be pissed off.

He's one of the most blatantly racist people I've ever seen, but he's so quick to cry racism, and say that all black people's problems are the fault of whitey, and that we invented AIDS to kill blacks.

And no, those attacks were not "invited". Those were innocent people that were killed on 9/11. They had aboslutely nothing to do with our foreign policy.

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Maybe it's because White people aren't retarded enough to get caught

Ignorance like this is why America and the world is its current position.

Edit: Just so everyone knows, I do not agree with what Rev. Wright said at all. He was too quick to blame everything on the white man.
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If you watched that, and are familiar with any of his previous sermons, you can't help but be pissed off.

He's one of the most blatantly racist people I've ever seen, but he's so quick to cry racism, and say that all black people's problems are the fault of whitey, and that we invented AIDS to kill blacks.

And no, those attacks were not "invited". Those were innocent people that were killed on 9/11. They had aboslutely nothing to do with our foreign policy.

TS; What the hell, man?


They had nothing to do with your foreign policy in the same way that the attacks on Dresden had nothing to do with Germany's foreign policy. I.e. they had everything to do with your foreign policy.

Agreed with the HIV thing though, that was pretty dumb.
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The judicial system is super racist (white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats)
White drugs = Pharmies readily available through more legitimate means.

Oxycontin, various other pain killers...

The poor in general (and there are more poor blacks than poor whites, percentage-wise) use drugs that you have to get through the black market exclusively.

Conclusion? Black people get caught.

College students, doctors, lawyers, etc. have friends in high places, no pun intended.
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Quote by bullets34
I actually watched all of his NAACP conference, and the press club, and his sermons. The only thing I heard that was out of line was the comment about AIDS which he yanked from some books he read.

We did invite the 9/11 attacks through our foreign policy, not because of the decadence of our society or our freedoms

Black people have gotten consistently screwed when it comes to access to education, police presence, access to city services, access to home loans (even government ones dating as far back as the 40's).

The judicial system is super racist (white rates of drug use are higher than whites yet black incarceration rates for drug crimes are far higher, among other stats)

What exactly pisses people off so much?

Edit: this thread would be better with a survey... Done and done.



Maybe it's because blacks sell them all to whites?
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Agreed with the HIV thing though, that was pretty dumb.


Well, the government did experiment the with the effects of syphills on black men. Look up Tuskegee Experiment. I think hes wrong, but its not like the government hasnt done some messed up things to blacks.
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it makes me mad, but i really don't care if anyone's racist, so long as they don't actually do anything to anyone. i don't think people should freak out about what the preacher said, but i think it's a bad idea to vote for Obama, seeing as how he went to church there for a while. actually, it's a bad idea to vote for him in the first place.
i think he's a retard for condemning what Reverend Wright said. he went there for twenty years or whatever it was (?), obviously he has no problem with the guy and agrees with him, the only reason he's condemning him is because there's an election. Obama ftl.

you do realize that Reverend Wright doesn't just spew racist comments for the entirety of his sermons, don't you? the majority of each sermon is spent talking about god, not his political views. Obama already clarified that he associates with the message of God that Wright preaches, and not with his extreme views on American race relations.
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Rev. Wright is just another wanna be Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. They are radical lefts who are double standard, reverse discriminative, retards. They blame the dysfunction of the Black Community for the past half century. Wright is just the 21st Century version of Jackson and Sharpton.

Wright and Company just refuse to accept that it may just be the black community's fault that they aren't getting anywhere.
I mean, the Black Radicals have no full and conclusive evidence that it is the white community's fault, although they play it out to be as such. For instance, they constantly bring back the 2 century old topic of slavery. And if that isn't enough, many of the radicals demand that their community be reprimanded for the "damages inflicted upon our/their ancestors".

And to counter argue their points, it's not like there hasn't been a successful black person. There has been many politically successful ones.

So, Wright was wrong, immorally and politically, this country would be better with out extremists like him.


agreed, it makes me sick to see Al Sharpton on TV screaming "RACISM!" every other day. there might just be the possibility that it was the minority who was arrested actually deserved it, but to them that possibility doesn't exist.

and

honestly think about it, which group of people weren't put under slavery or some sort of involuntary servitude at some point or another? just because your people were wronged in the past does not mean it's imperative to bring it up again and again, the same goes for the Jews and the Holocaust but lets not get off topic here....

i also love how a black person can be "proud to be black" but a white person can't be "proud to be white" because it's racist.

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i also love how a black person can be "proud to be black" but a white person can't be "proud to be white" because it's racist.

/rant


Well that would be to do with connotations. The Black Power movement developed to try and fight for the rights of oppressed black people. Black Pride is about cherishing "black culture" and so on. White power/pride was about the oppression and inferiority of other racial groups and forcing "white culture" on everyone.

So it's quite different.
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Quote by lt hopkins
Rev. Wright is just another wanna be Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. They are radical lefts who are double standard, reverse discriminative, retards. They blame the dysfunction of the Black Community for the past half century. Wright is just the 21st Century version of Jackson and Sharpton.

Wright and Company just refuse to accept that it may just be the black community's fault that they aren't getting anywhere.
I mean, the Black Radicals have no full and conclusive evidence that it is the white community's fault, although they play it out to be as such. For instance, they constantly bring back the 2 century old topic of slavery. And if that isn't enough, many of the radicals demand that their community be reprimanded for the "damages inflicted upon our/their ancestors".

And to counter argue their points, it's not like there hasn't been a successful black person. There has been many politically successful ones.

So, Wright was wrong, immorally and politically, this country would be better with out extremists like him.


Maybe it's because White people aren't retarded enough to get caught

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#33
The guy's an idiot, he needs to be quiet. Stuff he said was just stupid, of course some of his stats might have SOME credit, but the word statistic gets tossed around so much, people start to think that just because it is a statistic it is correct.
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#34
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you do realize that Reverend Wright doesn't just spew racist comments for the entirety of his sermons, don't you? the majority of each sermon is spent talking about god, not his political views. Obama already clarified that he associates with the message of God that Wright preaches, and not with his extreme views on American race relations.

yeah, but if the preacher repeatedly makes comments like that, then you stop going. he kept going, so obviously he has no problem with it.
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Well that would be to do with connotations. The Black Power movement developed to try and fight for the rights of oppressed black people. Black Pride is about cherishing "black culture" and so on. White power/pride was about the oppression and inferiority of other racial groups and forcing "white culture" on everyone.

So it's quite different.


so what if i view being "proud to be white" cherishing my white European culture?

i already know and understand what you're saying, but each phrase means the exact same thing from all points of view, being ethnocentric, which i have no problem with, but why should black people be ethnocentric and not get reprimanded for it but white people can't be ethnocentric without being reprimanded for it?

not that i really care to be quite honest but it's just a thought
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#36
He's an idiot.

End of story.
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#37
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yeah, but if the preacher repeatedly makes comments like that, then you stop going. he kept going, so obviously he has no problem with it.

tolerating his views are not the same thing as agreeing with them. He is friends with Wright because Wright has been a part of his lifelong religious experience. Just because he has radical views doesn't mean that Obama should reject him from his life. That would be an extremely ignorant and intolerant move on his part.
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#38
These people are a scourge on humanity.

Wright = White Supremacists = Islamists = any other ethnocentric wack anywhere.

Generally they have a low IQ and use religion to gain power.
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#39
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so what if i view being "proud to be white" cherishing my white European culture?

i already know and understand what you're saying, but each phrase means the exact same thing from all points of view, being ethnocentric, which i have no problem with, but why should black people be ethnocentric and not get reprimanded for it but white people can't be ethnocentric without being reprimanded for it?

not that i really care to be quite honest but it's just a thought


It's not to say they can't, but it's hard to tell what someone means when they say it. If you view being "proud to be white" as cherishing your european culture, fair enough, but realise other people probably won't realise that's what you mean if you say "white pride".

As I said before, black ethnocentricity developed for a different reason i.e. standing up together against oppression and made no comment on whether one group was better than another. White ethnocentricity was concentrated on the inferiority of other ethnic groups and developed for no reason other than ignorance and hatred.
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And no, those attacks were not "invited". Those were innocent people that were killed on 9/11. They had aboslutely nothing to do with our foreign policy.


Dude... you do realize that when we throw our military into countries we kill loads more than 4,000 people at a time, right? In Iraq alone there have been between 200,000 and a million civilian deaths because of our invasion, and the reign of the Shah (the most relevant historical figure in this debate) is the fault of the CIA and British intelligence.

What happened on 9/11 was awful and morally repugnant. I don't want to denigrate that. I literally feel like crying whenever I watch video of the towers being hit (I have relatives who lived in the blocks surrounding the towers, and the stories they tell are so sad), so I've stopped watching them. But the fact is that the people who attacked us were not crazy and did not hate us for our freedoms. They hated us because we have troops all over the world and especially in their holy land, they hate us because we unflinchingly support Israel, and they hate us because we have directly intervened in their governments in the past.

The people they attacked had nothing to do with that directly, yes. But our government did. They were pissed off and religious, a bad combination.
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