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So, my good friend is a well educated black man who has never really been exposed to high quality "rock" before. He's into some great urban stuff, the likes of The Roots, Talib Qweli, etc. So he likes lyrical depth, and a funky driven style. I play stuff in my car all the time, but I have a very eclectic taste in music and although he has now began appreciated the technicality of the music I listen to and the musicianship, he still hasn't found that thing that has caught his ear. The biggest complaint from him is that the vocals are usually screamed ( okay my fault lol) or that the lyrics are too artsy (e.g In Flames haha).

UG to the rescue ( I hope)

I'm looking for bands that are great at telling stories and are lyrically deep, vocally audible, and just an educated sound. I was thinking he might appreciate the newest Against Me Album...?

PS: not forciong my musical beliefs, we just have both decide to help each other and get more musically diverse. I for instance have accepted the Roots into my lineup and have enjoyed them thoroughly. Just bought the tipping point, so good!)
Originally posted by J_Dizzle
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tool
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#7
Coheed & Cambria is just one huge story through out the albums, amazing musicianship aswell, though i appreciate claudio's voice isnt to everyones taste.
#8
I saw "tells a story",,,, Primus.

Kamelot's Epica and The Black Halo are based on Goethe's Faust too,,,and they are both exceptional albums
#10
Yea it took awhile for me to tolerate his vocals, and Im still not a big fan or anything, Floyd is worth a try and so is Dream Theater. Can you imagine me showing a 6'6 350lbs rap fan a rush song come on. Please though keep the ideas flowing. And tool is the definition of artsy fartsy lol
Originally posted by J_Dizzle
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Yea it took awhile for me to tolerate his vocals, and Im still not a big fan or anything, Floyd is worth a try and so is Dream Theater. Can you imagine me showing a 6'6 350lbs rap fan a rush song come on. Please though keep the ideas flowing. And tool is the definition of artsy fartsy lol


Tool is the definition of lyrical depth. It's raw and not artsy fartsy
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#13
Check out Protest the Hero. Specifically the album Fortress. It is lyrically deep and provoking, while still being fairly raw, is very technical yet musical on all fronts, and includes some great vocals on the part of Rody Walker. They range from beautifully harmonized cleans to shrill, throat destroying screams to gutteral growls all well balanced with eachother. Great stuff, worth a look. Also, check out their debut "Kezia". While they have certainly matured their sound since then (especially Rody) it contains a great storyline and raw emotion and energy in its presentation. Both are worth a look

I hope this helps =D
#17
artsy fartsy? most of the songs are about anal sex, his paralyzed mother or something with a deeper meaning than most can comprehend
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artsy fartsy? most of the songs are about anal sex, his paralyzed mother or something with a deeper meaning than most can comprehend


They don't have a song about anal sex.
They have a song about anal rape.
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They don't have a song about anal sex.
They have a song about anal rape.


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#20
Get him into blues. Lyrical depth-not so much. But it is groovy and it is black people's music so if he doesn't enjoy then he is not a true black person.

EDIT: Your friend has great taste in music BTW, I got a Roots CD yesterday. No their new one but their live album because it is only 6.99 on itunes. Good sh*t.
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They don't have a song about anal sex.
They have a song about anal rape.


they have a song about anal fisting (stinkfist) and 4 degrees is a song about anal sex

i'll quote maynard james keenan himself from a concert i saw at PNC bank arts center "this next song... like a lot of our other songs... is about anal sex"
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they have a song about anal fisting (stinkfist) and 4 degrees is a song about anal sex

i'll quote maynard james keenan himself from a concert i saw at PNC bank arts center "this next song... like a lot of our other songs... is about anal sex"

Stinkfist isn't actually about fisting.
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#25
there have been many assumptions over the years about what tool songs are "really" about...

heh... i said ASSumption...
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#26
A rock band with lyrical depth? How about Pearl Jam Paulie - mid-ish Pearl Jam
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Look up Scenes from a Memory.....one REALLY big story.

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#28
alice in chains
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#30
Some Jawbreaker or Jets to Brazil would be good, even though Blake's vocals are a bit hard to understand sometimes.

Bloc Party has some great lyrics too, but idk if you're into that kind of music.

But whatever you do, please please please please PLEASE don't introduce him to Against Me! starting with their latest album. If you want the cleaner production quality, go for As The Eternal Cowboy or Searching for a Former Clarity, or even their live album.
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#32
some solid suggestions, keep them coming if ya'll can
Originally posted by J_Dizzle
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#33
I have that same situation.

My best friend is black, he listens to a lot of old school rap, back when it was good. I enjoy that genre very much too so I'm more into rap than he's into rock.

One style I know he loves is Jimi Hendrix, Little Wing is his favorite song. I don't know what else he really likes in the rock genre though. He can dig the Beatles sometimes, and anything with some nice drums.

The only time I can get him to really listen to some rock without any negative comments is when we're high and we chill to some pink floyd and ect ... even jazz with guitar

edit - Definitely some Bob Marley but your friend probably listens to that anyway, since the whole world does. Try find some more reggae rock.
#34
Hmm....

The Beatles are always a good foray into well-written band music. The Red Hot Chili Peppers have a funky style, and their songs are pretty tightly written. Have him give them a go.

Oh, and it may take a little digging, but most solo acoustic artists have an old school RnB flavor to them. I know I always like them.

Btw, the Roots are freaking amazing. ?uestlove's beats are always a blast to listen to. I just wish they'd turn up Captain Kirk's guitar though...
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#37
Most prog, especially Rush, Dream Theater, and Symphony X.
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Chili peppers?

Oh yes, this and Primus.
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