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#1
I use Gibson SG and a fender frontman for my amp
its pretty simple and I wanna know Whats the best
ROCK ON
#3
Any price and I'm in a band I really need a good amp that I can relay on when I play with it on stage
ROCK ON
#5
get a dumble overdrive special, used of course

gotta love it when they say any price!
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#6
You still didn't say what you play...


That could help...
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maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





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#7
Quote by MatrixClaw
You still didn't say what you play...


That could help...

I play old school rock and roll I'm looking for AC/DC tone
ROCK ON
#8
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that's my sugestion

Get a 16 channel Randall MTS.
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#9
Marshall, perhaps?
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#10
Quote by danyellenik
that's my sugestion

Get a 16 channel Randall MTS.

Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
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maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





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#11
or maybe even one of these



1969 Marshall PURPLE Super Bass 100 Watt Plexi Amp Head

look on ebay *hint*
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#12
Quote by OrrieGolo
I play old school rock and roll I'm looking for AC/DC tone



I would suggest a Laney GH50L or GH100L, or a Marshall JMP or JCM800 used, and an avatar 4x12 with greenbacks if you get a 100 watt, or 2x12 if you get a 50 watt. Also, I think there is a Marshall JCM combo on ebay right now, those are sick.
#14
check my suggestions, especially the first one
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#15
Quote by OrrieGolo
Any price and I'm in a band I really need a good amp that I can relay on when I play with it on stage


Spider Valve (Bogner Tube) or any of the Spider III amps are an excellent choice if you want a powerful amp with a lot of FX and user/band/song presets and the Valve for that added warm tube sound if you've got a few extra $$$ as it does run a bit more than the Spider III. Both are great amps.
~JP~
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Quote by Jammy Pige
Spider Valve (Bogner Tube) or any of the Spider III amps are an excellent choice if you want a powerful amp with a lot of FX and user/band/song presets and the Valve for that added warm tube sound if you've got a few extra $$$ as it does run a bit more than the Spider III. Both are great amps.


/MAJOR FAIL

spider sucks, DUMBLE OVERDRIVE SPECIAL FTW!!!

MARSHALL PLEXI FTW!!!

RACK SET UP FTW!!!
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#17
**** that, Just get a 50 watt EL34 combo, thats plenty loud, Probably go with single speakers and put a Greenback in it. It will overdrive nice and good for the big AC DC tone. Best bet is probably a JCM800 1x12. Or try the DSL401, Their alright, but keep the gain low on those, they have alot of gain on the high gain side, but its fizzly, get an overdrive for it.
#18
Quote by danyellenik
/MAJOR FAIL

spider sucks, DUMBLE OVERDRIVE SPECIAL FTW!!!

MARSHALL PLEXI FTW!!!

RACK SET UP FTW!!!



Well, I believe I said "if you want an amp with a lot of FX and user/song/artist presets with a lot of power" then the spider III or valve is a great amp.

All those amps you've listed are great amps, but they all have their limits too. It's nice if you can own 3 or 4 of those amps and that would be great. SRV used to use two of those in tandum for some of his stuff and if you can do that then that's the way to go.

But there's a reason why the new Spider Valve's are running around $800, they're actually pretty good amps. Just don't assume, go check it out. Peace.
~JP~
#19
^The fact that you compared the Spider III and the Spider Valve was a fail in itself. The Valve is decent, the Spider III is just a practice amp.

EDIT: And TS, check out a Peavey Classic 30 or 50. They're great for classic rock overdrive.

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#20
Quote by Jammy Pige
Well, I believe I said "if you want an amp with a lot of FX and user/song/artist presets with a lot of power" then the spider III or valve is a great amp.

All those amps you've listed are great amps, but they all have their limits too. It's nice if you can own 3 or 4 of those amps and that would be great. SRV used to use two of those in tandum for some of his stuff and if you can do that then that's the way to go.

But there's a reason why the new Spider Valve's are running around $800, they're actually pretty good amps. Just don't assume, go check it out. Peace.


if he doesn't have a budget, i would say line 6 vetta if he wants all the effects...

tons better than the valve, i spent hours in my music store with the vetta
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#22
Quote by danyellenik
if he doesn't have a budget, i would say line 6 vetta if he wants all the effects...

tons better than the valve, i spent hours in my music store with the vetta



ROCK ON!!!
~JP~
Last edited by Jammy Pige at Apr 30, 2008,
#23
hell if he has no budget screw the spider, get a marshall jcm 900, or if you can find one a plexi jtm45 like angus uses, or a superlead...

and if you wanna save some money, a used jcm 900 like someone else suggest would also sound great too...
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#24
don't get a spider of any sort -- they are terrible.

I would look into a Ceriatone 18w plexi, Orange Tiny Terror (it was supposedly modeled after Angus' tone), or a used JCM800.

Yes, you can gig with an 18 watt amp. You will get more power tube saturation, which is key to AC/DC's sound
#25
Quote by Jammy Pige
Must not be to happy with your other amps . . .


what's that supposed to mean?

EDIT: and I only have 1 amp, not plural
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#26
Quote by stradivari310
^The fact that you compared the Spider III and the Spider Valve was a fail in itself. The Valve is decent, the Spider III is just a practice amp.

EDIT: And TS, check out a Peavey Classic 30 or 50. They're great for classic rock overdrive.



Again. . . I never compared the two, I suggested one or the other "only if he wanted an amp with a lot of power and built in user/artist/song presets" and the valve if he wanted the tube sound also. But you are right . . . the Peavey classic 30 or 50 are both superb amps.

But honestly, 30 - 50 watts is not a whole lot of power AND neither one have the presets or the power and that was the conditions of my statement. The Spider III for the same price, less actually, will get you 120 to 150 watts . . . plus a whole lot of FX and presets.

Most of the other amps mentioned don't fulfill those conditions (although they are great amps), I believe the man said he wanted something he could play on stage and I'm only guessing he want's to be heard and 30 watts won't even get your mom mad at you.

PEACE.
~JP~
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#27
Quote by Jammy Pige
Again. . . I never compared the two, I suggested one or the other "only if he wanted an amp with a lot of power and built in user/artist/song presets" and the valve if he wanted the tube sound also. But you are right . . . the Peavey classic 30 or 50 are both superb amps.

But honestly, 30 - 50 watts is not a whole lot of power AND neither one have the presets or the power and that was the conditions of my statement. The Spider III for the same price, less actually, will get you 120 to 150 watts . . . plus a whole lot of FX and presets.

Most of the other amps mentioned don't fulfill those conditions (although they are great amps), I believe the man said he wanted something he could play on stage and I'm only guessing he want's to be heard and 30 watts won't even get your mom mad at you.

PEACE.


unfortunately the tube in a spider valve does not give it actual tube sound. There is still a digitalness to its sound.

Also, 30 watts is VERY loud. Have you ever cranked an AC30 or Orange Rocker? My ears ring for hours after playing my umic'd AC30.
#28
Quote by Jammy Pige
Must not be to happy with your other amps . . .


and don't bash me, how long have you been a regular in GG&A on UG?

exactly.


EDIT: sorry guys, this isn't the pit, I'm being a dick tonight, highschool...
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#29
any price range?
i would get an orange rockoverb
or thunderverb which i think is 100watts of all tube power
blow your f*ucking house away with the awsomeness of the orange amp
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fourteen?
For Christ sake she probably couldn't get to the center of a Tootsie Pop let alone suck your **** properly. Just get someone your own age you tosser.
#30
Quote by colin617
unfortunately the tube in a spider valve does not give it actual tube sound. There is still a digitalness to its sound.

Also, 30 watts is VERY loud. Have you ever cranked an AC30 or Orange Rocker? My ears ring for hours after playing my umic'd AC30.


Yeah your right about that, 30 watts can be pretty loud especially when your sitting right in front of it. What I mean is if you play really good and your in a small area 30 watts is more than enough, but when you play out doors and with a loud drummer it starts to diminish really fast. Lets face it, Eddie and Jimmy and Jimi and whoever almost always played with more than 30. That's not to say it can't be great in a lot of situations just that it is limited in some.

As far as the digital sound goes, your absolutely right . . . that's one of the few drawbacks and a big one as far as the spider is concerned. It's really something to think hard about if somebody is thinking of buying one. All I'm saying here is that there are pros and cons to almost anything you buy. . . that is unless you take the advice of Eddy's set up down below.

Peace to everybody here, you all know your amps really well.
~JP~
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#31
Quote by Jammy Pige
Spider Valve (Bogner Tube) or any of the Spider III amps are an excellent choice if you want a powerful amp with a lot of FX and user/band/song presets and the Valve for that added warm tube sound if you've got a few extra $$$ as it does run a bit more than the Spider III. Both are great amps.

ew...Marshall for the AC/DC man here! you need Marshall or Vox.
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#32
Why do so many people hate Spider amps? I've agreed that they have their drawbacks, but they also have some benefits. As far as any of the digital amps go that I've played on the Spider III was just as good, if not better than most. As far as competeting with a tube amp goes, of course it isn't as good as a "good" tube amp as far as tone goes.

But when you consider all the effects (7) and 12 amp models and 400 user/song/band presets and "120" watts of power for less than $400 it's not a bad deal at all.

I'm so tired of Spider haters that insist on top of the line amps like they're Rock n Roll royalty and many of them can't even play a lick. The Spider is an excellent amp "for the money" and it's only real draw back is that it's doesn't have that great tube sound like the Marshall and so many other tube amps.

Bottom line is that playing good is what matters most. I gaurantee you that Hendrix would sound "AWESOME" on a Spider III if he were here today, but most people will never sound that good even if you put them on the best equiptment out there.

Somewhere out there, there's some kid playing on some pile of **** 10 watt gorilla amp who would die for a Spider III and can actually play the hell out of his guitar and he totally understands what I'm getting at. PEACE TO ALL THE SPIDER HATERS.
~JP~
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#33
Marshall tube.... stay away from MGs....
"You've got to trust your instinct
And let go of regret
You've got to bet on yourself now star
'Cause that's your best bet" - 311
#34
Quote by Jammy Pige


But honestly, 30 - 50 watts is not a whole lot of power

I believe the man said he wanted something he could play on stage and I'm only guessing he want's to be heard and 30 watts won't even get your mom mad at you.




I gigged with a Classic 30 for a long time. Almost any place you play at will mic your amp, and the 30 gives a good stage volume; not too loud, but loud enough to be heard for sure. 100 watts is ~ 3 dBs louder than 50 watts.
#35
Jammy Pige, I have no problem with digital amps and agree that spiders take an unfair amount of flak at times, but your stuff about 30W/50W being insufficent is utter bollocks... I've never played a gig, outdoor or otherwise, where 30W hasn't been sufficient. My main gigging amp is a 50-watter and it's ludicrously powerful, enough that in most pubs and clubs I can't get the master past '2' without the other guitarist going mental.

but love it or hate it, in this case a Spider (or any other modelling amp) is a total waste of time - the guy is clearly heavily into AC/DC (he's got the SG and everything) so there's no reason not to get something a little more specialised.

The JCM800 gets my vote. Much as I agree with the vintage JTM45 or Dumble Overdrive Special I get the distinct impression 'any price' isn't quite that lenient...it'd be one hell of a step up from a Frontman!
#36
JCM 800, JTM45, Superlead Plexi and Orange rockers are all good suggestions. Some more would be Budda Superdrive (if thats what they're called) or some sort of Marshall clone since i doubt you really have ANY budget.. (to give you an idea people have payed $50000+ for a dumble overdrive special.
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Quote by Jammy Pige
Spider Valve (Bogner Tube) or any of the Spider III amps are an excellent choice if you want a powerful amp with a lot of FX and user/band/song presets and the Valve for that added warm tube sound if you've got a few extra $$$ as it does run a bit more than the Spider III. Both are great amps.



Shut up, just shut up.

And for the TS's information, the Spider Valve is AWFUL. How Bogner had anything to do with this I'll never know.

If price isn't an issue then look into a Marshall JCM 800, or a HiWatt Custom 20, or 50. Or even better, the Hiwatt studio stage. A JTM or Bluesbreaker would suit you too, as would a Marshall 2061 Lead and Bass. The possibilities are endless.

EDIT: Traynors are worth a look too.
#38
Quote by kyle62
Jammy Pige, I have no problem with digital amps and agree that spiders take an unfair amount of flak at times


Thank you for that. . . they're not the best, but they have some good things about them especially when money is an issue and always has been for me. For 400 bucks I could have bought a cheap tube amp and a couple of used pedals or the Spider III and guess what. . . yep, I bought the Spider III.

As far as power goes, your right about 40-50 watt range. It seems that depending on the set up this can be plenty of power to really bend your ears, but I just don't think 30 is all that much for outdoor situations for a large crowd and that's just my opinion.

I think your all right that a great 50 watt amp will do the job.
~JP~
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#39
^ God, will you just shut up alreasy? You've made your point.
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Didn't Kerry King use MGs at some point?

I think he just endorses them because he likes sacks of money
#40
For an AC/DC tone, I think the Classic 30 or 50 would be a great choice. The Spider 3's are fine practice amps, but not much else.
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