#1
I just bought the new(ish) Pig Destroyer record "Phantom Limb". I'd heard they were great, and to be honest im totally impressed by their writing. Chuggy thrash riffs give way to all-out grind mayhem, but there's something missing. They dont have a bass player. Singer, guitarist, noise guy, and drummer. I'd heard they had no bass, but I dont get it. A distorted grind bass pounding away under all of it would be great. But alas, they sound hollow.

Are there any other albums/bands out there ruined by the lack of a bass player? I mean no bass player at all, not just someone you dont like.
#3
Dude, there is bass on that album. Impaired by the mix to the point where you cant hear it, but Newsted did lay down tracks for it.

Its a different thing all together.
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As in the Metallica album/song?
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#6
Good point but I didnt mean it as spam or trolling in anyway, but now that you point it out I see its irrelevance. I posted here because I thought us bass players would notice the lack of bass more than other musicians and actually take note of it.
#7
Well if you want to read a bunch of retarded responses to a similar question, search for the White Stripes thread.
#8
Thanks although I was hoping for a little more than "retarded responses". I actually thought this would be a kinda interesting topic for bass players to discuss, and surely it'd be more interesting to talk about than the countless "what bass do I get?" and "drop-c on a 5 string" threads currently plaguing this forum.
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I actually thought this would be a kinda interesting topic for bass players to discuss, and surely it'd be more interesting to talk about than the countless "what bass do I get?" and "drop-c on a 5 string" threads currently plaguing this forum.


+1, one of the main reasons i hardly come in here anymore.


I honestly just can't think of any albums lacking bass(where it should be) off the top of my head right now.
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As in the Metallica album/song?


The entire album pretty much.
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#11
I have to agree on that point for almost all of the post-MoP Metallica. Although it was most extreme on ...And Justice For All, nearly all those albums have the bass just too low in the mix o sound as good as the albums should.
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#12
Genghis Tron doesn't even have a bassist or drummer, but I still love 'em. Unfortunately me being a fan of Grindcore its very common to fine almost no attention to the bass or little use of mixing it and what not.
I'm not really a fan of Pig Destroyer myself but I definitely know what you mean man. I'll listen to the new album since someone in this forum posted on them. You usually don't find Grind topics here often.
#13
yeah man check it out. Its a bit thrashier than other stuff, and doesnt sound just like recycled carcass riffs. Most grind that I listen to is pretty bass-tastic...[Brutal Truth cos Dan Lilker is a Grind-god, and the same for Napalm Death (I love the distorted sound Shane Embury uses)]...i think thats why i was shocked by Pig Destroyer.

Edit: Actually check out Lightning Bolt as well, they're just a drummer and bass player. Its wicked.
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Four words: And Justice For All.

Is it weird that despite having next to no bass, it's my favorite Metallica album?
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A distorted grind bass pounding away under all of it would be great.

One word: Architect.

edit: they have more (non-generic)metalcore-ish stylings, but they're still really good and chaotic
#16
best thing about bands without bassists- it's like a more creative play along cd.
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Is it weird that despite having next to no bass, it's my favorite Metallica album?


Its my fave metallica album aswell.
Yet it would of been so much better if the bass was that little bit higher in the mix.
#19
The Doors. But they always managed to hire some asshats to play the root notes.
Dear Ray, you must understand, RHODES =/= BASS!!!
#20
The Doors. But they always managed to hire some asshats to play the root notes.
Dear Ray, you must understand, RHODES =/= BASS!!!



...Sheesh. Go play some of the Doors tabs here on UG, and you'll very quickly find that they've got some damn good basslines, that *you* can play on the bass. Plus, on all their albums bar one they had studio bassists in, and often reasonably talented ones.

Ray Manzarek's left hand held down a far better low end than a load of bassists nowadays, and the fact that it happens to not be on a bass guitar doesn't make them bad basslines. Hell, a bass with wah, a synth pedal and echo sounds less like bass than his keyboards.

Go learn Light My Fire, The End, and Break on Through on the bass. Then have respect for Manzarek, when you remember he's doing this all while playing his keyboards as well.
#22
The Doors did have some interesting basslines. The Black Keys do not have a bassist. Although I am not a fan of their's, I know many people who are. Just because an album has poorly mixed bass or no bass at all doesn't necessarily mean it is utter crap.
#23
There is a bootleg copy of And Justice for All with the bass not mixed out, its quite good much better then the Retail version. The bass follows the rhythm guitar for most of the songs. I like it, but you have to know where to find it.
#24
The only one I can think of besides Pig Destroyer (who Ive been meaning to get into more) is a local band called Blood Guilt. I told the drummer if they ever need one, give me a hollar. But as I posted them in this thread, the outcome is quite obvious.
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