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Okay so I posted a thread asking what an easy-ish All That Remains song is, and I thought it was Death Metal but apparently it's Metalcore.

The metal I usually listen to is the old stuff like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. Sometimes Slayer too. I recently got into bands like
At The Gates, All That Remains, Shadows Fall, Five Finger Death Punch, Slipknot , SOAD (both nu metal)

But I just don't know what it's called, all I know is that its a form of metal.
How do you tell what type of metal a band is? Y'know, acid, speed, death, post-metal, nu-metal, thrash, etc.
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what exactly are you asking?
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Acid - Never heard of that, I'm pretty sure its made up

Speed - Like thrash but softer

Death - Grunting vocals, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Necrophagist, Death

Post-Metal - Some crappy name for Pantera-esque metal I think

Nu Metal - Limp Bizkit, Korn and so on

Thrash - Slayer, Metallica, Kreator etc.


Although hardcore is very different, so wrong board.
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acid was a name for bands like Ozzy in the early 80s
its not used anymore
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Metalcore is a mixture of metal and hardcore punk last I heard.

Although most metalcore bands hardly have any hardcore punk influence...the only ones I can think of at the moment are A7X and Atreyu.
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Although most metalcore bands hardly have any hardcore punk influence...the only ones I can think of at the moment are A7X and Atreyu.


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Metalcore is a mixture of metal and hardcore punk last I heard.

Although most metalcore bands hardly have any hardcore punk influence...the only ones I can think of at the moment are A7X and Atreyu.


what? are those the ones you think have hardcore punk influence or just the metalcore bands you can think of? they aren't even what most people consider metalcore although they do have metalcore influence.
#10
Wikipedia has some pretty good descriptions of all the different metal subgenres.
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Wikipedia has some pretty good descriptions of all the different metal subgenres.



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Trivium is a heavy metal band


^ Wikipedia is utter turd for metal.
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they aren't metalcore

metalcore = bands like Integrity, Botch, Converge
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^ Wikipedia is utter turd for metal.


Good point. I mainly meant that Wikipedia has good descriptions for the different subgenres, not necessarily the bands themselves.
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Best way to differentiate is by listening to bands labeled with the said subgenre you are looking to learn about.
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Acid - Never heard of that, I'm pretty sure its made up

Speed - Like thrash but softer

Death - Grunting vocals, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Necrophagist, Death

Post-Metal - Some crappy name for Pantera-esque metal I think

Nu Metal - Limp Bizkit, Korn and so on

Thrash - Slayer, Metallica, Kreator etc.


Although hardcore is very different, so wrong board.


Fail, Pantera were like groove metal...post metal my ass.
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post metal is stuff like Isis, Jesu, Pelican...
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How do you tell what type of metal a band is?


Go to the metal forum, and go to the rec thread. It gives a lot of good descriptions of the different sub-genres.
#23
i got confused by the difference between metalcore and death metal as well. but if you go ahead and listen to death metal bands like at the gates, carcass, cannibal corpse. then you'll know its different
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i got confused by the difference between metalcore and death metal as well. but if you go ahead and listen to death metal bands like at the gates, carcass, cannibal corpse. then you'll know its different


Dude, you're still confused.

Carcass, ATG = Melodic Death Metal

Cannibal Corpse = Death Metal.

And yes there's heaps of metalcore that sounds like ATG/Carcass.
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Fail, Pantera were like groove metal...post metal my ass.


yea, i think he knows that

he was explaining that post-metal is a lame attempt at classifying bands like Pantera or other things from the 90s that wasnt nu metal)
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#28
Yeah man, its a type of DM, but very different. Its like saying black and death metal are the same thing - there are differences.

Melodic Death is different to Death Metal. Your post made it sound like those bands are similar or from the same genre, and they're not.
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Ya I wanted to clearup that your totally wrong about post-metal being Pantera-esque stuff....wayyyyyyyy off....

post-metal is the heavier "metal" version of post-rock...Isis, Neurosis, Pelican, Jesu, Cult of Luna, all that stuff. Isis is pretty much the prime example of that music.
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^ Wikipedia is utter turd for metal.


But Trivium are a crappy metal band nowadays. That's right, not our f*ckin' problem anymore. And take Lamb of God back too. Damn heshers trying to lump crappy metal into hardcore. *grumblegrumblegrumble*
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post metal is stuff like Isis, Jesu, Pelican...



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rofl pantera.

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Ya I wanted to clearup that your totally wrong about post-metal being Pantera-esque stuff....wayyyyyyyy off....

post-metal is the heavier "metal" version of post-rock...Isis, Neurosis, Pelican, Jesu, Cult of Luna, all that stuff. Isis is pretty much the prime example of that music.


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But Trivium are a crappy metal band nowadays. That's right, not our f*ckin' problem anymore. And take Lamb of God back too. Damn heshers trying to lump crappy metal into hardcore. *grumblegrumblegrumble*

+1 man, I hate metal classification that goes beyond one subgenre. Like WTF is groove metal? Sounds like a tool that some Southern bumpkin would use for hygienic purposes.
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Okay so I posted a thread asking what an easy-ish All That Remains song is, and I thought it was Death Metal but apparently it's Metalcore.

The metal I usually listen to is the old stuff like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. Sometimes Slayer too. I recently got into bands like
At The Gates, All That Remains, Shadows Fall, Five Finger Death Punch, Slipknot , SOAD (both nu metal)

But I just don't know what it's called, all I know is that its a form of metal.
How do you tell what type of metal a band is? Y'know, acid, speed, death, post-metal, nu-metal, thrash, etc.


Acid metal - nonexistant

Speed - trad metal about twice as fast. examples are exciter and razor. no it is not SOFTER than thrash
death - fast, downtuned, guttural vocals (usually) can be broken up into
Swedish (boring) eg Carnage, Dismember
NYDM (good) eg Incantation, Immolation
Brutal (usually boring) eg Hate Eternal (good) and Cannibal Corpse (bad)
which can be broken up further into slam death (bad) eg devourement
Tech (usually boring) often overlaps with brutal, eg Cryptopsy, Necrophagist
Floridan (straight-up dm) eg Morbid Angel, Deicide
post-metal, like post-rock but metal eg Isis, Pelican
nu-metal, this is alt. rock not metal
thrash is like speed metal but faster chord changes and a greater use of the bottom string eg Overkill, Dark Angel
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^ Good on ya MHDrunk... you prick...


Yeah, TS, if you wanna learn about metal, cross the border. The metal forum will explain it for ya.

Just don't make a thread about it. Go to the metal rec thread
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Acid metal - nonexistant

Speed - trad metal about twice as fast. examples are exciter and razor. no it is not SOFTER than thrash
nu-metal, this is alt. rock not metal
thrash is like speed metal but faster chord changes and a greater use of the bottom string eg Overkill, Dark Angel


Thrash metal = speed metal + thrash(core). Speed metal bands ripping off hardcore punk style rhythm guitars.

Speed metal = well, pretty much what you got there. And as time went on it pretty much split into thrash metal, power metal and shred.

Nu Metal = Alt Metal + Groove Metal + occassional weirdness. Basically it fence sits between metal and alternative but doesn't fit too well within either. Too bombastic and showy and fashion/image oriented to be alternative rock, too simple and angsty to be metal.

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+1 man, I hate metal classification that goes beyond one subgenre. Like WTF is groove metal? Sounds like a tool that some Southern bumpkin would use for hygienic purposes.


Sorry ****stain, you missed my point. I like subgenres. And Lamb of God and Trivium's proper subgenre is cheesemetal. Now gtfo.
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Sorry ****stain, you missed my point. I like subgenres. And Lamb of God and Trivium's proper subgenre is cheesemetal. Now gtfo.

Why the harsh words? Thats the thing that gets me. When we're talking about hardcore, everyone seems civil. When metal comes into the mix it becomes a ****ing war.

Those bands suck anyway, proper classification is GAY. If I missed the point, whatever.
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