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#1
I searched, and couldnt find a miles davis thread, and I couldnt believe it. Maybe because he doesn't play guitar... But anyways, discuss miles davis here.

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I'll start this off with a difficult question:

Which of the quintets do you prefer?

It's rather an unfair question, because they're so dramatically different. I know I can't give an answer that I'm sure of. At the moment, I'll lean to the second. But that might change tomorrow (especially if you count the very late stuff right before kind of blue. bad cannonball! stop being so melodic!).
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#3
im partial to the first. But picking quintets is like picking beatles songs... Your favorite might change tomorrow.
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#4
I like Miles Davis. I don't know much about jazz, but it's listenable, to me. I find most jazz hard to listen to.
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"if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis"

I love Kind of Blue. It would be the one jazz album i would want if i could only have one.
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Yeah, when you look back on it, it revolutionized jazz. Miles was one of the first ones to improv over a chord for 4 or more measures in jazz.
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Not intending to hijack the current discussion of the thread, I'm curious to see if anyone else owns the album Pangaea?

As far as I'm aware it was originally released only in Japan, but is now more accessible. My father is a huge Miles Davis fan, probably owning most of, if not all of, his discography. I know many other Davis fans, but I don't think I know anyone else who owns this particular album.
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haaan
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nope, i dont have it. Ill look into it it. Is it available in america now?
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Quote by TheHeartbreaker
Not intending to hijack the current discussion of the thread, I'm curious to see if anyone else owns the album Pangaea?

As far as I'm aware it was originally released only in Japan, but is now more accessible. My father is a huge Miles Davis fan, probably owning most of, if not all of, his discography. I know many other Davis fans, but I don't think I know anyone else who owns this particular album.


hmm interesting, I haven't heard of it even! I'm gonna have to dig up some more info on this then...

PS: I have 2 live recordings of Miles with the Bitches Brew feat. King Douche Jarrett (I mean the guy's a douche, but he's my favorite pianist).
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^^true, he is a douche, and true, he is a great pianist. Im not sure if hes my favorite, but hes pretty good. Where did you get them, anyways? I bet there would be some sweet jamming on that record.
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^ for all your live show needs, I would direct you to http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/

and yeah there's some intense jamming going on there. one of the shows is at the Filmore West, and the other in Japan. The second show features an even more expansive line-up with guitar players like Pete Cosey in there. This is some of the funkiest jazz fusion recordings that I've heard.
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Quote by due 07
nope, i dont have it. Ill look into it it. Is it available in america now?


I believe so, but it's difficult to find. Ordering it from the Internet is your best shot.
laurel333
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Quote by Nick_

Which of the quintets do you prefer?



I prefer the second (Davis, Shorter, Hancock, Carter, Williams) and i'm listening to E.S.P atm

Very good album

First quintet did fantastically on Kind Of Blue though.

Anyone own A Tribute To Jack Johnson, or In A Silent Way?
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I have In A Silent Way. I heard Kind Of Blues first, when I was about 11; and heard In A Silent Way about 2 months ago, when I realised it was on my brothers shelf.
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I'd say get Kind Of Blue, and In A Silent Way. But that's only because that's what I've heard. I really do like In a Silent Way. It's on my sleeping playlist.
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^ Cheers for the recs!
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I prefer his 2nd quintet. But as far as in studio goes, you can't beat Bill Evans on piano.
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^He's quite something live, too - Sunday at the Village Vanguard is one of those essential to a collection albums.

Jack Johnson is rocking - Apparently much of it was conceived when McLaughin, Cobham et al were waiting for Miles to show up and just started jamming with the tape going.


Does anyone find that Miles' fusion can be introduced into fans of modern indie/electric/eclectic artsy stuff? It's wierd, they seem unusually responsive to it. Once they hook, you can often ease them into more traditional Miles.
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#21
love kind of blue, need to get some more of his stuff..^and i used to be one of those artsy indie people, ha

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Quote by laurel333
Anyone own A Tribute To Jack Johnson, or In A Silent Way?

I've been listening to In A Silent Way a lot lately, it's an amazing album. I would almost go as far as to say it's my favorite Miles album ever, but I need to get into more of his discography before I can have a truly definitive favorite. I have Jack Johnson but I haven't really listened to it much. I need to get on that. The only exposure I have to that era is the version of Yesternow on the first disc of The Cellar Door Sessions (another great album).

What does everyone here think of On the Corner? It's a polarizing album that people love and loathe w/equal passion. I personally think it's great, but I can see why people dislike it.
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#23
Yeah Yesternow is a good song

I really love Miles's fusion days, excluding Tutu - cos that annoys me

All his stuff with John McLaughlin is fantastic!
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I absolutely love this man. he's all I listen to when i study (which is quite a lot )
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Did you guys get into him through his electric or acoustic stuff?

Acoustic for me.
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Not a great trumpet player, but truly innovative and I also don't really like a lot of his tones.

That said, I do really like Kind of Blue (like everyone else) but I can't get into his more fusiony stuff like Bitch's brew, to out there for me.

It also doesn't help that I think John Mglauchlin is a lot of notes and fluff and no substance.
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The thing about Miles Davis to me is that his albums are either hit or miss. I love half of them, and really don't like the other half. For example, Kind Of Blue, Steamin', Birth Of The Cool etc are really good albums that i could listen to all day. But the likes of Tutu and Sketches in Spain are albums that i just can't get in to.

He's always compared to Coltrane as a jazz innovator, but in my opinion, Coltrane has an album for every mood, and i could listen to every one of his albums and love it!
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The thing about Miles Davis to me is that his albums are either hit or miss. I love half of them, and really don't like the other half. For example, Kind Of Blue, Steamin', Birth Of The Cool etc are really good albums that i could listen to all day. But the likes of Tutu and Sketches in Spain are albums that i just can't get in to.

He's always compared to Coltrane as a jazz innovator, but in my opinion, Coltrane has an album for every mood, and i could listen to every one of his albums and love it!



I think that just means you like Coltrane more, to be honest. I think Miles David was many leagues more historically important than Coltrane - though nowhere need as good a musician.
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of course yeah, Davis was a lot more important to jazz
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love kind of blue, need to get some more of his stuff

I'm in the same boat.

It's the only jazz album I have actually- I'm a complete noob.
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I'm in the same boat.

It's the only jazz album I have actually- I'm a complete noob.


check out the suggested albums list that's stickied in this forum
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Not a great trumpet player, but truly innovative and I also don't really like a lot of his tones.

That said, I do really like Kind of Blue (like everyone else) but I can't get into his more fusiony stuff like Bitch's brew, to out there for me.

It also doesn't help that I think John Mglauchlin is a lot of notes and fluff and no substance.


Bitches Brew is the wrong place to start if you're looking to get into his fusion stuff. I'd get In A Silent Way because it is a little more closely tied to his jazz roots and it's a lot shorter too, not to mention a lot better imho.

But I haven't listened to enough of his jazz stuff yet. I love Kind of Blue, but I've only given Birth of the Cool and Sketches of Spain a couple of listens. Usually when I'm in a jazz mode, I go for Coltrane so I haven't quite gotten around to those yet.
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Bitches Brew is the wrong place to start if you're looking to get into his fusion stuff. I'd get In A Silent Way because it is a little more closely tied to his jazz roots and it's a lot shorter too, not to mention a lot better imho.

But I haven't listened to enough of his jazz stuff yet. I love Kind of Blue, but I've only given Birth of the Cool and Sketches of Spain a couple of listens. Usually when I'm in a jazz mode, I go for Coltrane so I haven't quite gotten around to those yet.


I didn't start with Bitch's brew, I was just saying that I can't get into it.
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I can definitely understand that. Truth be told, I'm not huge into Bitches Brew either. I like it, but it meanders too much to keep me immersed in every piece. And it's a very dense album both in terms of length and the amount of instruments performing together on each piece. It's probably my least favorite of Miles' fusion albums.