#1
I'm considering trading in my Crafter ML-Rose (as I now have an all-solid spruce/rosewood guitar) for something else, and one kind that I'm considering is an all-mahogany model.

I've already read much about the Martin D-15 and its variants, but I'm not a big fan of the D size. I also know Martin has OOO-15 and OO-15, but they cost a little more than what I'd like to pay for at the moment. Since I don't really know too much about all-mahogany guitars, can someone recommend some models that cost less than, say, $700 USD?
#2
i've never heard of any all mahogany guitars besides the martin 15 series. Also, the 000-15, OM-15, and 00-15 should all be the EXACT same price as the D-15. if they arent, you're getting ripped off. the MSRP on all those guitars are the exact same except for the J-15, which is a little more expensive. mmm... i guess the prices for you might be different though since you're in tokyo, but yea... they shouldnt be a different price at all.
#3
Yeah, there's no change in MSRP pricing between D-15, 00-15 and 000-15, even in Tokyo. (I eliminated D-15 on the size factor, even before the price consideration.) Of course, thanks to the importing costs they are much more expensive than in North America.
#4
well, the guild gad-25 is all mahogany , all solid and costs about 550 new, but its dreadnought size.

I don't think your gonna have much luck buying new in that price range for an all solid all mahogany. Maybe look used.
#5
I highly recommend the Blueridge BR-240. It is a remake of the Pre-war Martin d-18. I own one and bought it on e-bay for $525 used. The nicest sounding guitar I have ever picked up including a lot of very high end guitars at the local guitar store.

Some people prefer the BR-140. Difference is the wood. Premium vs Select. Higher grade on the 240. Both have bone nut and saddle. 240 has ebony fingerboard and saddle.

Can't say enough good about this guitar. It's a tone monster. Very balanced tone. Mine came with fossilized walrus ivory pins.

Blueridges sound better than the comparable Martins IMHO.
#6
Those Blueridge models have spruce tops; I'm specifically looking for all-mahogany models.
#10
Quote by pharm30

Decent guitar; my uncle owned one for a little while. The laminate sides aren't that bad, for the price. Though, with only the laminated sides to back it up, the solid mahogany top sounds a little dead.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#11
Quote by Chad48309
I think TokyoNeko wants a solid guitar.

That Washburn is practically a cardboard box in a nylon bag.


sorry, wasn't paying attention. just posted what I had noticed before.
#12
Chad is partially right; I want AT LEAST a solid top. I just returned from a shop locally where I tried to trade in the ML-Rose and hopefully find an all-mahogany guitar with similar value... I could only find one (an all-laminate one) and it sounded absolutely atrocious. In the end, I just ended up selling the ML-Rose.

The problems with the guitar shops in Japan are 1) that the selection is a bit thin, 2) that the low-end guitars are really bad, and 3) that anything halfway decent is way overpriced compared to what can be had in the U.S. I guess I'll wait until I pay a visit to California again sometime this summer.
#13
So anyway, I've laxed up on the top material (and the upper ceiling of pricing) a little bit, and came up with the following OM-size models as possibilities to check out on my next trip to the U.S. All of them have solid mahogany or solid sapale for sides and backs (no rosewood).

- Martin 000-15
- Martin 00-15
- Larrivee OM-03
- Taylor GA3
- Taylor GC3
- Guild GAD-30
- Guild GAD-F20
- Blueridge BR-143

Of these, the bottom 3 are NOT made in N. America, which is a bit of a concern, although at the end of the day the sound will matter more than anything else.

And of course, I'm not going to just rely on someone else's opinion to make a decision, and will play as many of these as possible first. But what would be your choice of OM-size solid sapale/mahogany guitars costing up to $1000 USD?
#14
Quote by Chad48309
Decent guitar; my uncle owned one for a little while. The laminate sides aren't that bad, for the price. Though, with only the laminated sides to back it up, the solid mahogany top sounds a little dead.



This is the acoustic guitar that I have currently. The OP is clearly looking for something a little more high end, but I do like this guitar. It is folk sized, though, which is great for me but seems small to my friends. People have complimented the tone in my recordings. It is a good option if you record or play acoustic a lot, and are looking for a mahogany top as an alternate to your main tone. Good value for the money.
#15
Quote by TokyoNeko
So anyway, I've laxed up on the top material (and the upper ceiling of pricing) a little bit, and came up with the following OM-size models as possibilities to check out on my next trip to the U.S. All of them have solid mahogany or solid sapale for sides and backs (no rosewood).

- Martin 000-15
- Martin 00-15
- Larrivee OM-03
- Taylor GA3
- Taylor GC3
- Guild GAD-30
- Guild GAD-F20
- Blueridge BR-143

Of these, the bottom 3 are NOT made in N. America, which is a bit of a concern, although at the end of the day the sound will matter more than anything else.

And of course, I'm not going to just rely on someone else's opinion to make a decision, and will play as many of these as possible first. But what would be your choice of OM-size solid sapale/mahogany guitars costing up to $1000 USD?


to be honest, those are all great choices. i think my top choice would still be the martin 000-15 though.
#16
Quote by captivate
to be honest, those are all great choices. i think my top choice would still be the martin 000-15 though.


Hmm, the 000-15 is actually the closest in terms of the specs I was looking for in the first place, although the Larrivee and Taylor models I mentioned are particularly tempting. I found one shop in San Diego that carries most of the models I listed, so I'm looking forward to heading out there in June/July to check those out.

BTW, I read from another thread that you're not a big Larrivee fan. May I ask why?
#17
ohh, it's just purely preference. i just dont find the sound of any larrivee i've ever played to be attractive. i've played a DV-10 (i think? dont remember the model, but it was a 10 series dreadnought. it's my friend's so i play it somewhat often) and quite a few others. the neck on his 10 series also has gloss, which i REALLY dont like. my main thing about larrivee's are just the sound. not my thing.

Noting that, if anyone asked about larrivee's, i'd still suggest them. they're great quality guitars. that's an undenyable fact.
#18
to be perfectly honest with you a guitar doesnt have to be made in N. AMERICA to be of high quality. I do not see a single guitar on that list that i wouldnt mind owning and they should all last you a lifetime if properly maintained. good luck happy stumming
#19
Quote by anita prs bad
to be perfectly honest with you a guitar doesnt have to be made in N. AMERICA to be of high quality. I do not see a single guitar on that list that i wouldnt mind owning and they should all last you a lifetime if properly maintained. good luck happy stumming

It makes me sick when people equate MADE IN US with quality. We have plenty of crap coming out of here, just like any other country.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#20
Guys, I'm not THAT hung up on N. America-made guitars. In fact, the second guitar on my sig (which is quickly replacing the Ovation as my favorite guitar) is made in Korea.

Anyway, as I said I'm not deciding on anything until I actually get to play them. For all I know, a GAD or a Blueridge could have a much more attractive sound to me.
#21
Quote by TokyoNeko
Those Blueridge models have spruce tops; I'm specifically looking for all-mahogany models.



The back and sides are Mahogany. The only all mahogany guitar I know of is the Martin D-15. The BR-240 is better.
#22
Here's a revival of an "older" thread... :p

So I finally found a shop in Tokyo that has a good selection of "import" OM/000-sized guitars with sapele/mahogany sides and backs. The models I tried were:

- Larrivee OM-03SP (spruce top, sapele side/back)
- Larrivee OM-03SP Special (all-sapele)
- Martin 000-15 (all-sapele)
- Martin 000-16GT (spruce top, mahogany side/back)
- Larrivee OM-03R (spruce top, rosewood side/back), just for reference

After spending about an hour going through all of them, I was left with the following impressions:

- All-sapele or all-mahogany models look wonderful, and the sound is really nice and warm. But they lack the volume of the spruce-top models, which wasn't unexpected. I've decided that I prefer spruce-top models, which provide the volume and versatility I want.

- As I thought, I prefer the combination of spruce and sapele/mahogany to spruce and rosewood for smaller guitars. Personally, I think spruce and rosewood is a better combination for larger guitars.

Since I'm not willing to pay $1500 for imports here in Japan (when I can get it for less than $1000 in the US when I visit next month), I guess I have about a month to ponder between Martin 000-16GT or Larrivee OM-03SP for now, as I'm really having a hard time separating the two. Of course, I still haven't gotten an opportunity to play the Taylor (GA3) and Blueridge (BR-143) models yet, but I guess I'll find out in a month... maybe.