#1
Looking for tips and advice to get a decent bedroom rig for a decent amount of money

so far im leaning towards

Blackheart little giant head+ cab ( changing to better tubes also )
Bad monkey for overdrive
MXR Carbon copy analog for delay

and maby a holy grail for reverb in the future

would it be good for everything from classic rock to metal ?

or do you have any tips on other stuff that would be better while not increasing price so very much?
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Last edited by Jaekae at May 5, 2008,
#3
yep. sounds pretty good for the money...although if you have a bit more money left, an ibanez ts808 or maybe a fulltone OCD (expensive, tho) would do alot better than the bad monkey
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#4
Why do u need a mini stack for your bedroom? Just get Native Instruments guitar rig and a usb audio interface and thats it sorted.

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#5
Great, except from the Holy Grail. Weird spacey sound goes into amp. Amp makes it sound wank. The end.

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Why do u need a mini stack for your bedroom? Just get Native Instruments guitar rig and a usb audio interface and thats it sorted.

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#6
Yeah seems good; I was gonna go for the BH but decided I'm getting the Valve Junior instead.

I was told to get the Bad Monkey. I might, but if I have enough, I'll get a Ts808 or some kind if Ibanez Tubescreamer.

Overall, your choices sound good.
#7
For bedroom playing, I recommend at LEAST 100watts of tube power. You'll be pushing it to be heard with that though.
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For bedroom playing, I recommend at LEAST 100watts of tube power. You'll be pushing it to be heard with that though.


Moe hit the nail on the head with that one. the only thing i would change is you would need a 4x12 so that you can be heard anywhere in your room. you can only really hear a 112 if your standing in front of it.
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For bedroom playing, I recommend at LEAST 100watts of tube power. You'll be pushing it to be heard with that though.


The thing is Moe, even though you don't NEED all this freakin' power for a bedroom rig, the condition exists where you MIGHT end up needing more and being unable to afford it (been there). So instead of dicking around on a new purchase (buying small) you go for the big stuff (100 watts+)and do it right once and be done. I don't NEED a Bogner half stack either but I sure would like one...for bedroom practice even...
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Moe hit the nail on the head with that one. the only thing i would change is you would need a 4x12 so that you can be heard anywhere in your room. you can only really hear a 112 if your standing in front of it.


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#14
If it's only for practice I'd be more inclined to buy a solid state amp, just because the little 5 watters don't sound any good until you get the volume up a bit.

And, the carbon copy and holy grail in front of the amp will sound messy, if you want to use delay/reverb pedals you'd be better off with an amp that has an effects loop.
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If it's only for practice I'd be more inclined to buy a solid state amp, just because the little 5 watters don't sound any good until you get the volume up a bit.

And, the carbon copy and holy grail in front of the amp will sound messy, if you want to use delay/reverb pedals you'd be better off with an amp that has an effects loop.


im getting a tube amp because i want to upgrade from my cube,

how messy? will it be bad, or kinda good but better in loop ? theres not any 5 watters that got a fx loop i think
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#17
I'm very happy with my POD XT Live and Valve junior. There are several ways to adjust volume and tone. Your guitar volume knob will clean it up nicely and you can crank the volume on the POD to get what you need. Not gigging loud but certainly bedroom loud. Any thing below the 12 o'clock position on the Vj will give you a clean enough signal to take advantage of the rest of it.
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#18
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Blackheart little giant head+ cab ( changing to better tubes also )



I love how amateurs think they know better than the amp designers. Exactly how did you come to your decision to replace the tubes? Have you even tried a Little Giant yet?
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I love how amateurs think they know better than the amp designers. Exactly how did you come to your decision to replace the tubes? Have you even tried a Little Giant yet?

in order to sell amps at cheaper prices, companies cut corners. the first two things they generally do it use cheap no name chinese tubes and muddy sub-par speakers.

i love how dickheads think they're smart, when in reality a monkey on crack could give better and more intelligent responses.
#20
yea i got the advice from many guitarists to replace them because they are chinese non name tubes
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#22
I dunno.. you don't really need a half stack for a bedroom rig lol.. I'd honestly just go with a 40-50 watt tube amp combo (yeah, change the tubes still), that would give you MORE than enough power and headroom, and you could always mic it up if you needed it for a gig
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I dunno.. you don't really need a half stack for a bedroom rig lol.. I'd honestly just go with a 40-50 watt tube amp combo (yeah, change the tubes still), that would give you MORE than enough power and headroom, and you could always mic it up if you needed it for a gig


its a 5/3 watt half stack :p i think a 40-50 watt combo would be too much
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#25
Marshall MG Half stack.... the distortion is CRUSHING!
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its a 5/3 watt half stack :p i think a 40-50 watt combo would be too much


OHH

Sorry mate, maybe I should have actually looked up the amp before opening my mouth!
That sounds good to me, fine to practice with
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#27
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Great, except from the Holy Grail. Weird spacey sound goes into amp. Amp makes it sound wank. The end.

Yep, I do the same kinda thing. ToneLab into soundcard = best bedroom rig ever.


It's fine in front of the amp unless its being driven and seeing as hes using a pedal to drive his amp he can easily put the reverb after the drive in the chain.

HGs a good pedal if you know what to do.
#28
The Blackheart's quite loud for bedrooms, even for a 5/3 watt amp, you won't get much natural OD from it at those volumes. But you can use an OD
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#29
wondering one thing, the amp doesnt have any gain knob, only volume, how do i play it clean then? is higher volumes overdriven and lower clean?
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#30
^u mean the EVJ? you just turn up the volume on the amp, full volume on ur guitar's pickup + EQ with ur knobs for distortion/od. then for cleans, turn the volume to suitable lvl, roll down guitar pickups volume, and switch to neck pickup, thne EQ with ur knobs.
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#31
would the bad monkey manage to get me a metal sound or will i need some kind of distortion pedal for that?
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