#1
Taylor 114 - 599$ (http://www.zzounds.com/item--TAY114)

vs.

Bluridge BR-43 - 525$ (http://guitarhut.net/blueridge_br_43_guitar.htm)


First, I was sure about the Taylor guitar, since I've played so many Taylors and liked em all. But when I walked into my local musicstore and started to play this Blueridge, I really liked that one too. And since I know one of the owners he gave me a great deal: The Blueridge BR-43 + hardcase (worth 90$) for 500$, which is less money than I was supposed to give for the guitar alone. He really gave me a headache tbh.

I haven't played THAT Taylor guitar yet, only other guitars of the same brand. And a buddie told me Taylors are really fragile... and when I think about it, I can imagine they are. When I hold em, it really feels like holding a eggshell.

As we all know, both of them got a different feel. But I can't make up my mind, so please help me!

So what should I do, go for a good deal and buy the Blueridge BR-43 with a great tone and playability + hardcase for 500$.. or go for the more wellknown Taylor 114 with a more crispy and eggshellish (not a bad thing) sound for 599$?

Thanks in advance
#2
first off, never pigeon hole yourself into a "brand". never tell yourself that a certain model of guitar is good or probably good because the brand has good reputation. that is not a valid reason, and quite a dangerous assumption. a good company can make garbage guitars. e.g. cheap taylors(100, 200 series) and martins(X series) ARE NOT. WORTH. THE. MONEY. PERIOD. you're paying for the logo on the headstock.

also, i can assure you that although a taylor feels fragile, it wont be if you take care of it right. the 100 and 200 series really wont be fragile because they arent made with solid wood sides and back. same with any other brand, except ohh... lets say ibanez.

anyway... the blueridge is definitely better value. I would definitely take it over any 100 or 200 series taylor any day of the year. here's why:

- the taylor comes with either plastic(most likely?) or tusq nut and saddle
- the blueridge comes with BONE saddle and nut
- the blueridge is cheaper than the taylor
- i can buy a $300 guitar that outshines the taylor 100 and 200 series(current series) guitars in terms of sound quite easily.
- the blueridge comes with a case
- you've never played the taylor

EDIT: sorry if i typed that with a critical tone of voice, but seriously... taylor and martin can do MUCH better than this HPL and laminate crap on their low end guitars.
#3
Thank you for the input + critisicm, i really appreciate it

I've played guitar for some time (7 years) but I'm really not into the guitar-materials-thingy..

So I would like to ask:
What is bad with tusq nut, and what is good with Bone saddle? (as u stated in ur reply)
Is it the value of the two(tusq/bone), or the tone maybe?
#4
This is your answer. Sums up every point one could argue.

Captivate is among the more intelligent members of this board; listen to him.

Quote by Havoc_
Thank you for the input + critisicm, i really appreciate it

I've played guitar for some time (7 years) but I'm really not into the guitar-materials-thingy..

So I would like to ask:
What is bad with tusq nut, and what is good with Bone saddle? (as u stated in ur reply)
Is it the value of the two(tusq/bone), or the tone maybe?

Good quality bone outshines TUSQ any day of the week, in my opinion. There is absolutely no comparison. I've been very impressed with the quality of bone on the Blueridge guitars, too.

Honestly, my vote goes for the Blueridge. I've never played a low-end Taylor that I liked, or that could compare with a Masterbilt or Seagull.

Edit: fixed double post.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#5
Ty for your input too... Seems like I'll most likely go for the Blueridge then.

And you guys just made it easier for me. My only concern is getting a guitar that will last for a couple of years (even if I buy new one's) and that is satisfying me and my taste. And I guess, since I'm a student, that I won't buy any "real" Taylor in a near future since they are about 1200$+. And if you guys are saying that the 114 isn't worth it, I'll take your word, since you seem more practically experienced in different brands and materials than I am.

I just don't want the feel of "have chosen the wrong guitar" and getting selfowned if I test the Taylor out :P
#6
Quote by Havoc_
Ty for your input too... Seems like I'll most likely go for the Blueridge then.

And you guys just made it easier for me. My only concern is getting a guitar that will last for a couple of years (even if I buy new one's) and that is satisfying me and my taste. And I guess, since I'm a student, that I won't buy any "real" Taylor in a near future since they are about 1200$+. And if you guys are saying that the 114 isn't worth it, I'll take your word, since you seem more practically experienced in different brands and materials than I am.

I just don't want the feel of "have chosen the wrong guitar" and getting selfowned if I test the Taylor out :P

The Blueridge is a fine choice. Bottom line, chose the guitar that you have played. I've been GASing for a Godin 5th Avenue Archtop, even though I haven't played it. Thankfully, I can keep myself under control and only buy what I play.

Again, I've never been impressed with Taylor's low-end. It's not like Ibanez, who blatantly neglect quality control, but their materials and general "bang for the buck" is sorely lacking in their low-end products. My Seagull S6 with a bone nut, saddle, and pins outplays the 200 series from Taylor any day.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#7
good bone will give you more clarity in your sound compared to tusq. i currently have tusq on my Martin D-16RGT, but im probably not going to change it till later because im about $1700 in debt for the guitar and electronics already. also being a student as well, i know that durability is an issue since you wont be able to just replace it whenever. the blueridge should last you for sure.

anyway... just keep playing that blueridge for a while(maybe even an hour if you're seriously going to consider buying it). it's important to get a good feel about what the guitar is like over longer periods of time. before i bought my martin, i sat in that store for 2 hours the friday before and about an hour the day i bought it. just sat there playing and checking over the guitar.

EDIT: yea, its like chad says. it's not that the taylor 100 and 200 series guitars are BAD... it's just that i could get something so much better for the same price. as for Chad's Seagull outplaying a 200 series... i played a Seagull Cedar Performer(2nd highest series) that just flat out beat the taylor 300 series. mind you, there's about a $500-700 price difference there. i can only imagine how beastly the seagull must sound with bone. seagulls generally come with tusq.
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#8
Ah nice to hear

Another thing has occured tho hehe.

My friend at the local music store has offered me his own Blueridge (he's a collector and buys everything that goes with some kind of sound, more or less) which will be about 150$ more = 650$. And i really can't remember which on of these it were:

Blueridge BR-143

http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-143

Blueridge BR-163

http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-163


But either way... The deal sounds awesome to me.. But I would like to ask:
Is it worth the extra 150$ to buy his guitar? It has been rarely played and he bought it 10 weeks ago.
#9
Quote by Havoc_
Ah nice to hear

Another thing has occured tho hehe.

My friend at the local music store has offered me his own Blueridge (he's a collector and buys everything that goes with some kind of sound, more or less) which will be about 150$ more = 650$. And i really can't remember which on of these it were:

Blueridge BR-143

http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-143

Blueridge BR-163

http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-163


But either way... The deal sounds awesome to me.. But I would like to ask:
Is it worth the extra 150$ to buy his guitar? It has been rarely played and he bought it 10 weeks ago.

I wouldn't. No return policy with private purchases.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#10
The thing is... He does work in that music store, so if something happens with the guitar he will fix it for me anyway. And still he has lowered the price about 200-400$..yeye, i'll see :P
#11
The same website you mentioned on your first post offers the 143 and the 163 as well; you might be better off buying from them.

http://guitarhut.net/blueridge_br_143_guitar.htm

http://guitarhut.net/Blueridge%20BR%20163%20Guitar.htm

Either way, the increase in the cost is simply the following: the 43 has LAMINATE mahogany back/side, whereas the 143 and the 163 have SOLID backs/sides (mahogany and rosewood, respectively).
#12
ill put my 110 up against any guitar sub 600 in quality reliability and tone (for me of course)
such a shame to seeing impressionable people turned away from a brand. take the guitar home thats talks to you not one that some one on a forum says is good or bad especially if they have never owned one. be it taylor blueridge seagull or takamine or whatever.

my taylor is four years old and has three dings in it and its not because i am a saint about taking care of it its just built well and anyone that says there fragile laugh at them. they may be light but are no more fragile than any other guitar in the same price range as accurately stated by captivate.

i have a real problem with taylor sending out there guitar with light elixers i think they sound like poo poo smells and is most likely the reason so many people say they have never played one they liked the sound of imho. i use dr rare phos bronze .013 and wow bass response good mids and those taylor highs p.s. i have upgraded my saddle to fwi and i do agree completely that it blows tusq out of the water but it is a fairly cheap upgrade and if i can do it anyone can do it.

try it if you like it consider it hell try every guitar in and out of your price range more than once you will find the guitar that is right for you. And value is relative what is expensive to you may be chump change to someone esle. a taylor is deffinitly not a "bargin" by any means but to me it is a definite value.
#13
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ill put my 110 up against any guitar sub 600 in quality reliability and tone (for me of course)
such a shame to seeing impressionable people turned away from a brand. take the guitar home thats talks to you not one that some one on a forum says is good or bad especially if they have never owned one. be it taylor blueridge seagull or takamine or whatever.

my taylor is four years old and has three dings in it and its not because i am a saint about taking care of it its just built well and anyone that says there fragile laugh at them. they may be light but are no more fragile than any other guitar in the same price range as accurately stated by captivate.

i have a real problem with taylor sending out there guitar with light elixers i think they sound like poo poo smells and is most likely the reason so many people say they have never played one they liked the sound of imho. i use dr rare phos bronze .013 and wow bass response good mids and those taylor highs p.s. i have upgraded my saddle to fwi and i do agree completely that it blows tusq out of the water but it is a fairly cheap upgrade and if i can do it anyone can do it.

try it if you like it consider it hell try every guitar in and out of your price range more than once you will find the guitar that is right for you. And value is relative what is expensive to you may be chump change to someone esle. a taylor is deffinitly not a "bargin" by any means but to me it is a definite value.

I never said that they are fragile. I have owned two Taylor guitars in my life. I sold both of them because I was disappointed after a year. You are right on the point of Elixirs; coated strings sound dead. Then again, so do almost all stock strings. FWI is always a good choice, if you can afford it, though I think he means to pick a guitar with the best "package" (meaning less upgrades).

I agree, try out every guitar you can and pick which one suits you best. Don't let some yahoo on the Internet put you off of a brand, but don't be steadfast to it, either. Do your research, make an educated decision.
Sincerely, Chad.
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#14
please dont think i meant to imply you said they were fragile. it was a reference to the original posters friend who said it was fragile. Yes while we disagree in what guitar sounds/ plays the best i have always found all your other advice on a myriad of topics to be sound and quite informed and never meant to imply that sorry if it came across that way

Oh by the way i am not stead fast to taylor guitars i know i cant afford to be. my next two guitars are actually gonna be takamines i put off getting a dn3 so i can get my wife a cedar topped g330s and my self a cut away spruce top without electronics
G 340 c i believe. by the way only reason i am hijacking is i read on another forum that he had already settled on one of the blueridges.

i just find it very sad that i read "you only get the name on the headstock for your money" when i know otherwise. There is a reason you hardly ever see threads about my 100 200 taylor buzzing or whatever or having intonation problems blah blah. They are well made aside from disagreences about top wood selection they are put together to last and i would never call an ebony bridged and necked guitar substandard in any wood catogory.
#15
So I went down to the store today and made my final decision.


I finally bought a Blueridge BR-163 and I'm more than satisfied!
Great action, great tune and great playability!

Ty guys for helping me clear my mind out really appreciate it
#18
Actually, I might be tempted to get a Blueridge BR-143 myself if I can't find an all-mahogany OM guitar to my likings...

Havoc_, where was your guitar made in, by the way?
#19
Tbh I don't have a clue :O But isn't all Blueridge guitars made in China? Think so.
And don't underestimate China as guitarbuilders... Underestimate the massproducing factorys. And it's not a massproduced one.

But I'll ask the guy I bought the guitar from!