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Considering how many riffs and solos have been created over the last 60 years, do you think it will be really hard to come up with original music?
#4
I guess eventually it might happen, but I think by then, the newest "movement" in music will have come along and rendered rock 'n' roll obslolete anyway...
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#5
Considering the fact that music itself has been around for thousands if not millions of years, I'm pretty sure it's hard right now to write 3 or 4 seconds of melodies or riffs that have never been written in all time, if you don't take into account tempo and dynamics. It's all about how they're arranged.
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#7
just do covers for the rest of eternity!
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#8
Like every wave of music, rock as we know it will go. more electronics, more synth, is what's next.
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I guess eventually it might happen, but I think by then, the newest "movement" in music will have come along and rendered rock 'n' roll obslolete anyway...

the latest movement (hip-hop) didn't do it, so what kid of futuristic techno blend will?
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#10
Rock n' Roll died in the 60s or 70s.

There hasn't been any REAL rock n' roll (Chuck Berry, Bill Haley, Fats Domino, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc.) in ages, in mass quantaties, that is.

And, no, the genre will never die. It's never came close, and it never will.
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#12
I already find it hard to create original music without it sounding reminding me in someway of a song i know. Or im just uncreative, which is the answer im gonna go with.
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#13
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but at least the use of effects will definitely open up thousands of possibilities
as for acoustic guitar players, they're gonna be screwed someday
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#17
Rock music is so much more than just riffs and solos. With music there is so much variation; it has a near infinite amount of possibilities.
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Rock music is so much more than just riffs and solos. With music there is so much variation; it has a near infinite amount of possibilities.

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#19
In terms of mathematics. There is a finite (not infinate) amount of possibilities using a guitar. Eventually we are going to run out of riffs that can be called original...thats when a new instrument is invented and a new genre to go with it.

Hopefully rock music itself won't ever die...but it will. Everything dies eventually
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I already find it hard to create original music without it sounding reminding me in someway of a song i know. Or im just uncreative, which is the answer im gonna go with.
I think pretty much everyone is like that. Because if we have had absolutely no music to make us "biased" I guess when we write our music (meaning nothing to really influence our musical composition), we'd be like cavemen pounding on rocks.
#21
What the hell? It isn't oil, it's music. You can't run out of musical possibilities. If anything, it will keep getting better.
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In terms of mathematics. There is a finite (not infinate) amount of possibilities using a guitar. Eventually we are going to run out of riffs that can be called original...thats when a new instrument is invented and a new genre to go with it.
You aren't taking into account time signatures, dynamics, tempo, and maybe a few other things.

Julián Carrillo discovered the 13th tone when messing around with his violin. When a string is stretched on a guitar, in infinite amount of pitches are being made. Theoritically if one has access to infinite pitches, infinite riffs and melodies can be made.
#23
Well, the sound of one style of music can get tiresome, but music evolves over time. So, no worries.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#24
Look at it like this: every single person is different. We all have our own experiences in life, our own preferences/desires, outlook, way of thinking, etc. So rock music right now comparatively touches on only a few of those things. You can almost argue that we're just scratching the surface so far, and that what has been already done is really somewhat limited.

What would someone make up if they learned guitar without ever hearing someone play one? Its almost like the phrase 'its all been done already,' is a self-sustaining thought, in that what has been done already very greatly influences what will be done, and thus works to prevent originality through 'used' inspiration.

But maybe once someone breaks out of that box and reinvents guitar, it will only start a whole new 'box' to stay in.

All just speculation, maybe rock is dead.
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#25
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You aren't taking into account time signatures, dynamics, tempo, and maybe a few other things.

Julián Carrillo discovered the 13th tone when messing around with his violin. When a string is stretched on a guitar, in infinite amount of pitches are being made. Theoritically if one has access to infinite pitches, infinite riffs and melodies can be made.



Yes, so in terms of mathematics, it is INfinite. Since the notes are broken down into frequencies, the number of frequencies between two notes is infinite.

123.1, 123.11, 123.111, etc.
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You aren't taking into account time signatures, dynamics, tempo, and maybe a few other things.

Julián Carrillo discovered the 13th tone when messing around with his violin. When a string is stretched on a guitar, in infinite amount of pitches are being made. Theoritically if one has access to infinite pitches, infinite riffs and melodies can be made.


There isnt an infinite amount of pitches, we can only hear what falls between whatever the highest and lowest frequency we can hear. There is finite riffs that can be made and this cant be argued otherwise.

Changing rhythm, time sig and keys will make more yes, but not infinite.

The possibility of riffs is a number far beyond what a man can comprehend but there is a limit. Even if we use them all, others will be forgotten and when they are repeated they will be treated as original.

TS, music will not run out. Ever.
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There isnt an infinite amount of pitches, we can only hear what falls between whatever the highest and lowest frequency we can hear. There is finite riffs that can be made and this cant be argued otherwise.

Changing rhythm, time sig and keys will make more yes, but not infinite.

The possibility of riffs is a number far beyond what a man can comprehend but there is a limit. Even if we use them all, others will be forgotten and when they are repeated they will be treated as original.

TS, music will not run out. Ever.


Yeah I'm waiting for people to forget about the riff in Whiskey Train by Blackfoot. I WANNA USE IT!!!!

Oh wait, they did forget. Usin it.
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#28
No music will never run out of certain sounds. There is not 12 tones in music, there is 12 tones in the Western music system. I could tune my guitar and add some additional frets and get 24 brand new, never before heard tones right now.
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#30
This has been done more times than a wh0re.

Not for a long, long time.
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#32
I don't think we will have this problem for a long time. There are many different notes that could be used and rhythms. These notes can be used together or seperatly. Because of this there are billions of possibilities. Also, there are techniques like slides, hammer ons, pull offs, string bends, palm muting. These techniques make the amount of riffs able to be played so much higher.
#34
nah dude theres infinite combinations and possibilities riff wise and added to that the different elements in a rock song i hav no doubt it will not
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#35
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the latest movement (hip-hop) didn't do it, so what kid of futuristic techno blend will?


I don't count hip-hop as a music movement in the same way as rock is, but I think the case can still be made that hip-hop is taking over where rock once stood.
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others will be forgotten and when they are repeated they will be treated as original.


Wait a second I just realized something. This means that thousands of years ago, an ancient flutist could have been busting out Sweet Child of Mine or Dr. Feelgood!!

Amazing!!
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Considering the fact that music itself has been around for thousands if not millions of years, I'm pretty sure it's hard right now to write 3 or 4 seconds of melodies or riffs that have never been written in all time, if you don't take into account tempo and dynamics. It's all about how they're arranged.


That's stupid...

I think rock won't become completely obsolete, rather it will evolve, change and distort so much that I doubt any of us would recognize it.
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I'm pretty sure it's hard right now to write 3 or 4 seconds of melodies or riffs that have never been written in all time, if you don't take into account tempo and dynamics. It's all about how they're arranged.


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