#1
So im buying a classical guitar over the summer when i go to visit my relatives in Mexico. The problem is I dont know the name of woods on spanish.
So could anyone list the tonewood on english and then its name in spanish?
like
Oak-roble ( i know oak is a horrible tonewood, but i just needed an example)

Oh and can anyone tell me how to define laminated top on spanish? i know how to describe a solid top, but not a laminated.

Thanks
#2
mahogany --- caoba
maple --------- dont remember, but you can say "maple" in spanish and theyll get it...

laminated = laminado... but i cant really remember how to say "laminated top" either
#3
Oh dont worry about the pronunciation is just i dont know the equivalent of woods on spanish.
i knew abou caoba, but i didnt know it was mahogany.
Im horrible with guitar-related vocab on spanish and its my first language...

On a different note can anyone tell me the english equivalent of chords, like:

Fa major = F major ( i think)

thanks again
#5
I know that spruce is picea.

I believe that cedar is the same?
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#6
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I know that spruce is picea.

I believe that cedar is the same?

Ooh ok thanks man.

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edit...
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#7
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Ooh ok thanks man.

just17n8 de donde eres?

edit...
nada estoy mal, no vi que decia Venezuela...

And because I was struggling, I looked up rosewood on Google's translator. I have no idea, but it gave me the same thing in return. So, either it's the same (like cedar) or Google is screwing with me.

No idea. But I am pretty sure that cedar is the same.
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#8
I think is Palorosa, though im not sure.
thanks anyway.

Also, what are some tonewoods to look for on a classical guitar?
What are specific things to look for when buying a classical? (i mean like what are some NO's taht will make it a bad guitar)
#9
Quote by el rulfo
I think is Palorosa, though im not sure.
thanks anyway.

Also, what are some tonewoods to look for on a classical guitar?
What are specific things to look for when buying a classical? (i mean like what are some NO's taht will make it a bad guitar)

I will remain steadfast that the best woods for a classical guitar are a solid, high-grade cedar top and rosewood back and sides. The bridge and fingerboard should be ebony, in my opinion.

Proper construction, straight neck, good bracing, etc.
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#10
Thanks man, although im not looking for a high end.

DO luthiers commonly dye their wood or do they just leave it natural, because i want a darker wood finish on mine like:


or

preferably like the second one

what are some good classicals for aroud 300 US tops? I want to compare US to the Handmade ones in Mexico.

Thanks again
Last edited by el rulfo at May 9, 2008,
#11
Quote by el rulfo
Thanks man, although im not looking for a high end.

DO luthiers commonly dye their wood or do they just leave it natural, because i want a darker wood finish on mine like:



or


Some stain, some don't. I know that many stain rosewood to be a darker color to give a stark contrast from the top. It's an aesthetic choice.

Personally, the most beautiful classical I've ever seen (God, I wish I had pictures) was brought in to me to get strung up with some Aquila gut strings. It was a AAAA cedar top with stunning rosewood back and sides with maple binding. There was no rosette or decoration on the guitar and the headstock was a paddle shape. What was amazing was the pure carnauba wax finish. He said he learned this trick from pipe making, and man was it amazing. Buffed to a high gloss, it needed some special care to keep it in top condition. The top resonated with a clarity I haven't heard before.
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#12
you're not going to find a good classical for 300 bucks. it won't be handmade and it will likely be laminated tops and sides.
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I will remain steadfast that the best woods for a classical guitar are a solid, high-grade cedar top and rosewood back and sides. The bridge and fingerboard should be ebony, in my opinion.

Proper construction, straight neck, good bracing, etc.

depends on the tone you want. if you want a warmer sound, cedar top is the way to go, but spruce will give a brighter snappier tone. Rosewood is the standard for sides, look for brazilian rosewood.
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#13
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you're not going to find a good classical for 300 bucks. it won't be handmade and it will likely be laminated tops and sides.

depends on the tone you want. if you want a warmer sound, cedar top is the way to go, but spruce will give a brighter snappier tone. Rosewood is the standard for sides, look for brazilian rosewood.



No, im pretty sure they are hand made in Mexico (Paracho, Michoacan if that matters), im looking for any decent classical (thats in the U.S.) around $300 just to compare and see if I can find a better one on Mexico. It doesnt have to be classical, just nylong strung, poreferably with a cutaway
#14
Cedar = Cedro
Spruce = Pícea (or Abeto Falso)
Maple = Maple
Mahogany = Caoba (I'm not so sure)

Here in Mexico you will find many woods which are unusual in the US, as Aguacate, Palosanto, etc.

You can find some really nice guitars for US $300, but don't expect it to sound as an american made guitar. They have way different sound, mostly because they are made for different music.

Most Paracho made guitars under $100 sucks. They are made of cheap laminated wood or even plywood and some are steel strung though they don't have a truss rod. Also, the bridge, nut and machine heads (the tuning pegs) are often made of cheap plastic.

Look for a solid top made of good wood, such as cedar (cedro), nylon strings, bone bridge and steady tuners. And, last but not least, play before buying.
#15
Quote by el rulfo
Oh dont worry about the pronunciation is just i dont know the equivalent of woods on spanish.
i knew abou caoba, but i didnt know it was mahogany.
Im horrible with guitar-related vocab on spanish and its my first language...

On a different note can anyone tell me the english equivalent of chords, like:

Fa major = F major ( i think)

thanks again


For the notes its just the letters (which I'm sure you know if its your first language) then:

major = mayor
minor = menor
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#16
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For the notes its just the letters (which I'm sure you know if its your first language) then:

major = mayor
minor = menor


well, what abou Si to Sol? and there is no M note
#17
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well, what abou Si to Sol? and there is no M note


Who said anything about an M note?

And "Si to Sol" means "If to Sun" so I'm not sure what you mean by that either. Congratulations sir, your post has thoroughly confused me.
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#18
C = Do
D = Re
E = Mi
F = Fa
G = Sol
A = La
B = Si

# (sharp) = Sostenido
b (flat) = Bemol

Major = Mayor
Minor = Menor
Seventh = Séptima
#19
Quote by Billyjson
Who said anything about an M note?

And "Si to Sol" means "If to Sun" so I'm not sure what you mean by that either. Congratulations sir, your post has thoroughly confused me.


well...

Quote by Billyjson
For the notes its just the letters (which I'm sure you know if its your first language) then:



You misunderstood me, in spanish the notes are not A B C D E F, its Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Si. Also I misread your post, i thought you meant that the name of the notes on spanish was the the first letter of the notes (if that makes sense)
#20
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C = Do
D = Re
E = Mi
F = Fa
G = Sol
A = La
B = Si

# (sharp) = Sostenido
b (flat) = Bemol

Major = Mayor
Minor = Menor
Seventh = Séptima


Neta?, yo pense que # era aguda. Juro k mi maestra de musica de primaria dijo que era agudas y graves.

Gracias