#1
So dudes, I just got 2500 USD to buy new gear and I was thinking about getting a Double rec, a Fireball or a 6505, but after reading about the loast one, i discovered it had from little to no cleans, so this question came to my mind:

Is there any pedal that is the opposite of a distortion one?

What i mean is that, for example, when you have your amp on clean and press your Dist pedal, a "layer" of dist is placed over your clean signal or something like that. So if i have the amp on dirty con I throw a layer of clean sound on it? Is this possible with a cheap fx procesor like the RP50 and to keep it on a clean preset to turn on with an AB switch? (diagram below)



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#2
Nope. At that price, you could probably get an amp which did distorted stuff as well as good cleans.
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Turn down the volume on your guitar. I suppose you could rig up something in the effects loop, however you would need to run some interesting cables. Hoever, pedals shape the sound of the instrument before its sent through the preamp. Where you get amp distortion. In short, there is no such thing as a "clean pedal"
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Quote by chikin pickle
Turn down the volume on your guitar. I suppose you could rig up something in the effects loop, however you would need to run some interesting cables. Hoever, pedals shape the sound of the instrument before its sent through the preamp. Where you get amp distortion. In short, there is no such thing as a "clean pedal"

Thats the answer i needed. Thank you. Im checking the Double Rec then and see what problems does it have
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#5
Go with either the double rec, or (if you can afford one) an ENGL Powerball. The Powerball is basically the Fireball, with more power, and more channels (clean, crunch, and lead I believe). It's also pushing upwards of 2000 USD...
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Erm... The Powerball actually has 4 channels, my mistake.
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Quote by chikin pickle
Turn down the volume on your guitar. I suppose you could rig up something in the effects loop, however you would need to run some interesting cables. Hoever, pedals shape the sound of the instrument before its sent through the preamp. Where you get amp distortion. In short, there is no such thing as a "clean pedal"


He's right. From what I understand, the very definition of this type of signal distortion, is amplifying a sound signal such that the waveform gets irreversibly distorted (the peaks and troughs of the form get clipped off). You can get a similair effect by turning your ipod all the way up and plugging it into low volume speakers, you'll hear alot of crappy distotion.

Either way, once the signal gets distorted, you can't get the original "clean" signal back.
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with a tube amp you just have to set the gain and EQ right and you get a tone inbetween clean and full on OD, just pick harder for a grittier tone, and play softer/take some volume off for cleaner sounds
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with a tube amp you just have to set the gain and EQ right and you get a tone inbetween clean and full on OD, just pick harder for a grittier tone, and play softer/take some volume off for cleaner sounds


Not quite right; that's true of single channel amps but tonnes of tube amps come with more than one channel but setting your amp to the fullest gain you want and using the volume and tone on your guitar is a good way to get some damn nice tones.
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Im checking the Double Rec then and see what problems does it have

Loose, flabby low end, nothing like the tight and punchy 6505.

You should be able to get a decent amp which can do both cleans and dist at that price to be honest.
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If you want a more 6505/5150 tone but with better cleans a Powerball would be exactly what you want; gain up the ass, fender-style cleans and more channels than you can shake a stick at. It is almost $2000 though.
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I would say a Mesa Dual Rectifier Road King II. It would be a very good choice.
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Quote by chikin pickle
Turn down the volume on your guitar. I suppose you could rig up something in the effects loop, however you would need to run some interesting cables. Hoever, pedals shape the sound of the instrument before its sent through the preamp. Where you get amp distortion. In short, there is no such thing as a "clean pedal"


When I read your post at 1st, I was like "there's no way that would even work as the signal would already be distorted coming out of the preamp", but then I realized that you meant direct input into the return jack of the loop...

is a very interesting idea that I would be curious about...

How do you think it would sound to put an A/B box from the guitar with "A" going into the front of the amp, and "B" going to an EQ pedal then into the return jack of the loop?

That would require two switch presses though..

So then maybe a splitter with one going to the front and the other to EQ and return?
Then all that would be required would be a press of the FX loop switch right? Because I don't think the return jack is actually active until you press the FX loop switch...
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Its called a footswitch, and any 2 channel amp over $1,000 should have one available.
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#16
You'll need an Anti-Distortion pedal, there's heaps on the market - just ask for one at your local guitar store.

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