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#1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H1Fpuf814Bw&feature=related

When Bertie Ahern said this in his speech I swelled with pride. Heres to moving on and hoping other regions engulfed in violence can finally reach a peaceful end to conflict! It can be done.
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#2
Took them long enough.
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#5
It will never really end. However, this period of peace is definitely a breath of fresh air for us, and its about time really. But this should probably go in the only irish thread.
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#7
I hope it sticks this time. Good luck to all of you.
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#9
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Sorry to sound like an ignorant uninformed tool (too bad that's what I am) but what was going on in Ireland?



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#13
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indeed.

All this stuff happened in the 1920's, and it's only officially ending now?

Or am I not doin' it rite?

Sorry, I wasn't thinking straight when I copied those. See 'The Troubles'.
#14
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#16
What utter rubbish.

No disrespect to the man, he has done A LOT for the peace process but it sounds like someone's trying to claim a legacy that doesn't belong to him.
#17
I'll drink to peace!

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#18
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indeed.

All this stuff happened in the 1920's, and it's only officially ending now?

Or am I not doin' it rite?



You haven't heard of the IRA/PIRA?

Terrorists intent on claiming Northern Ireland as Irish and not Brittish. put simply.
#19
The troubles won't really end, as sectarianism is already ingrained into most of the damned youth's heads but this is a breath of fresh air that the actual factions have stepped down.
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#21
Lets Get Drunk!!!!!!
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#22
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You haven't heard of the IRA/PIRA?

Freedom-fighters intent on claiming Northern Ireland as Irish and not Brittish. put simply.


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#23
What do the majority of the Irish people want...To take control of northern Ireland or to just be in the U.K.
#24
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Now we just need to fix Limerick...





filthy old stab city


and as for Ireland at peace, the PIRA and that refuse to stop, they still got guns and are still doing the good old extortion and 'protection' racquets as the IRA used to


tbf the only reason the IRA gave up is cos they realised it's not worth the hassle, they'll take the millions they got left over and go down the pub


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What do the majority of the Irish people want...To take control of northern Ireland or to just be in the U.K.



haha yea i think the Irish would love to be in the UK
#25
What do the majority of the Irish people want...To take control of northern Ireland or to just be in the U.K.


its not what the irish want,its what the people in northern ireland want.there would be a civil war in NI if there was a vote and NI became part of the republic again because of the extreme uniomists
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#26
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Are you joking or stupid? The PIRA and RIRA aren't interested in anyone's freedom. Both the UK and Ireland consider them terrorist groups.
#28
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Are you joking or stupid? The PIRA and RIRA aren't interested in anyone's freedom. Both the UK and Ireland consider them terrorist groups.



I don't know anythign about their angenda, their political affiliations, all I know is they work to free people from the grasp of the UK. Perhaps they're crazy totalitarians who want all Irish peopel to kneel to them and suck their dicks, I dunno. But they do work on the unity of all Irish people.

If you want to be Irish, live in Ireland, don't like in NI, which is the UK. That's my opinion, or at least call NI somethign else, they shouldn't try to affiliate themselves with the free men in Ireland. They're the bitches of the UK.


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#29
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What utter rubbish.

No disrespect to the man, he has done A LOT for the peace process but it sounds like someone's trying to claim a legacy that doesn't belong to him.

Major +1
Bertie was in the right place at the right time.
He didn;t actually do anything.


As for this "Ireland is at peace" rubbish, that's just not true. If Bertie really thinks it is then he'll have no issues with walking through moyross will he?
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#31
LOL at the Limerick comment!

I agree there wont be full peace for a long time but at least the bombs going off every 2nd day and sectarian killings have prety much stopped.

And in regards to the comment about the IRA and PIRA and how theyre not terrorists, you must be joking? The IRA stopped caring about the freedom of Ireland a long time ago, they are and have been nothing but gangsters for a long time.
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#32
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The troubles won't really end, as sectarianism is already ingrained into most of the damned youth's heads but this is a breath of fresh air that the actual factions have stepped down.


I agree, the whole concept of sectarianism is stupid anyway.. half the people come up to me asking if i am protestant or catholic which i am neither since i am not a christian and then they say how they are protestant proud when they dont even ****ing go to church.

Defies the bloody point to be begin with.

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I don't know anythign about their angenda, their political affiliations, all I know is they work to free people from the grasp of the UK. Perhaps they're crazy totalitarians who want all Irish peopel to kneel to them and suck their dicks, I dunno. But they do work on the unity of all Irish people.

If you want to be Irish, live in Ireland, don't like in NI, which is the UK. That's my opinion, or at least call NI somethign else, they shouldn't try to affiliate themselves with the free men in Ireland. They're the bitches of the UK.


I live in NI and i refer to myself as Irish. Big woop its just a word. I find it amusing when people argue with what nationality they are it doesn't really matter. Most people i find are switching to irish passports anyway so if they get caught in iraq or something (which the likelyhood of happening is like 1/1000000000000) they will get off easier cause they aren't on a British passport

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its not what the irish want,its what the people in northern ireland want.there would be a civil war in NI if there was a vote and NI became part of the republic again because of the extreme uniomists


That is the exact problem if we get rid of the extremists problem is solved but sadly there will always be extremists. I don't see a problem with a united Ireland but then if there is or isn't what difference does it make?
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#33
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I live in NI and i refer to myself as Irish. Big woop its just a word. I find it amusing when people argue with what nationality they are it doesn't really matter. Most people i find are switching to irish passports anyway so if they get caught in iraq or something (which the likelyhood of happening is like 1/1000000000000) they will get off easier cause they aren't on a British passport



Ah, but apparently it does matter. To others.
#34
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+1.
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#35
YAYZ

TERROR

NEED MOAR


Wow, Ireland sucks, BIG time.
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#36
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YAYZ

GUINESS

NEED MOAR


Wow, Ireland sucks up the guiness, BIG time.

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#37
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YAYZ

TERROR

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Wow, Ireland sucks, BIG time.


Shut up.
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#38
The Republic of Ireland has been at peace for decades.

And the North hasn't been nearly as bad for a good while now.
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#39
Did they find a surplus of potatoes?

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