#1
Whats the best tube amp for playing thrash metal in a band under $500.

I'd like a gain control, eq, 2 channels, master volume, and an effects loop.

Also, it would be cool if the amp has smooth buttery lead tones.

Are those palaminos not made anymore. Those were pretty nice...

Could anyone tell me why crate tubes are cheap?

Are there any unheard of companies (like rondomusic) only for tube amps?

I'd prefer new, but list used options too.

Thanks
Last edited by mepmep at May 11, 2008,
#2
uh.. maybe with an Overdrive Pedal a Valveking but really there isn't much Heavy Gain Stuff in that Price Range with Tubes with the wattage you'll be needing for in a band..

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-112-Combo-Amp?sku=481442

maybe this?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Crate-V-Series-V50112-50W-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=487054

I never tried but it looks nice..
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#3
Search around over in Guitar Gear & Accessories (aka AMPs) and see what's going over there. this comes up every day and it is a good Question.

+1 to da Valveking 112

not the greatest but does lots of stuff well. Used options will really open up things for ya to yo

no seperate EQ for channels (only lead) and no master volume

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#5
do you want tubes because thats what internet experts on UG convinced you of? Solid state amps in that price range are fairly fantastic for what you'll be wanting.

just a thought
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Valve kings ive played sounded thin. Used B-52?
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I wouldn't touch a Valveking with a bargepole. If I were you, I;d go for a Randall RG50TC or a used Peavey 5150. Be careful when buying used valve amps, though- more often than not, the valves are going to need replacing, and that's expensive!

It's also worth looking at some of the better solid-state amps in your price range, like the Randall G3 series and Tech 21's Trademark series.
#12
+ 3.14159265 to the valveking

i own the 212 and i tried the 112 before i got it imo it has great cleans and sounds ok on the lead channel on its own for the price sounds even better with a pedal to boost it
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Peavey Vk112, or a Windsor Studio. may want to replace the speaker in the Vk at some point though, it's not that great.
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do you want tubes because thats what internet experts on UG convinced you of? Solid state amps in that price range are fairly fantastic for what you'll be wanting.

just a thought


No, I like tubes for their warm sound. They also have more of a natural full sound in my experiance. Only all the nice tubes I've tried are way out of my price range for several years probably. However I dont think I've ever tried out a nice SS (just a spider 3, a frontman, and a lame starterpack amp). Are any SS amps warm, and not fizzy and dry?
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A valveking with OD infront of of it would be your best bet.

I've tried a VK 112 before without OD or distortion boxes, and noticed that the sound was kind of flat, and although I could get it increidibly distorted, I couldnt get a smooth fast lead tone. Would an OD, distortion, or a tube screamer beef it up, and give me fast tones?
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Quote by mepmep
I've tried a VK 112 before without OD or distortion boxes, and noticed that the sound was kind of flat, and although I could get it increidibly distorted, I couldnt get a smooth fast lead tone. Would an OD, distortion, or a tube screamer beef it up, and give me fast tones?


With some tweaking you can get it.
I have a VK112 and I'm getting all the tones i want.
I keep the drive on the amp low and the drive on the OD pedal high to make it realy bright and full.
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Quote by Evil_Magician
With some tweaking you can get it.
I have a VK112 and I'm getting all the tones i want.
I keep the drive on the amp low and the drive on the OD pedal high to make it realy bright and full.

I also noticed that when I wanted the good tones from the amp, I had to crank it to very high volumes. Obivoulsy in my gigging band this isnt a problem, but when Im at home practicing it is. Would an ibanez tube screamer make it so I wouldnt need to crank it?
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I also noticed that when I wanted the good tones from the amp, I had to crank it to very high volumes. Obivoulsy in my gigging band this isnt a problem, but when Im at home practicing it is. Would an ibanez tube screamer make it so I wouldnt need to crank it?


Yes, it would also make your sound alot tighter at higher volumes.