#1
Karl Sanders has disgusting tone.

If I may quote a sig I see around here:
"If your tone looks like this
your crowd will look like this "

So true. I'm glad my band's bassist forced me to keep listening to Nile, because if he didn't, I would never have gotten into them, BECAUSE OF THEIR TERRIBLE GUITAR TONE.
Karl Sanders can obviously play, but he can't dial in a good tone to save life.

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#3
I agree. I cant tell if its his tone or the recording quality sometimes though.
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#4
Mids are alright, depends on the amp and the guitar. Strats love mid-scoops - they bring out all that jangle and clank. Also, most jazz boxes prefer neutral mids (set to 4 or 5, depending on your amp).

I love Nile, I admit their tone isn't the greatest but frankly it works for what they do.
#5
Scooped mids can sound good, BUT, if you wan't your guitar to be heard mids is important especially when you crank it, because with scooped mids it tends to become just...noise live. + I love the sound of high mids :p. (I have mine at 9.5 xD)
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#6
It depends what you're playing. Lots of mids desn't exactly sound great for heavy metal
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#7
Only reason I don't listen to this band often is the horribly muddy production. Suffocation has this same problem (though not as bad). For a band playing such technical things you'd think they'd want you to hear it...
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It depends what you're playing. Lots of mids desn't exactly sound great for heavy metal


Listen to my Schecter of Metal clip on my profile and tell me lots of mids makes for terrible tone.
At least you can hear what's being played. :\

And yeah. to the poster above, that's exactly what I don't get.
They're insanely technical, but that's useless if you can't hear what's being played due to totally scooped out mids.
Their stuff isn't too bad on a really decent set of headphones, and Annihilation of The Wicked is actually pretty awesome sounding through some decent studio quality monitors, but most people (or so it seems) listen through earbud headphones or computer speakers, and Nile sounds like **** on both of those 9 times out of 10.

Shame.
#10
That's like asking why most black metal bands still use sh*tty studio productions, or why punk bands use power chords. There's always exceptions, but the majority of the bands in any genre tend to follow trends to keep their music related to that scene. In Nile's case it's all about teh brootalz
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#11
I don't think Nile has a ****ty tone? In fact I love their lead guitarists tone...
#12
i hate their tone

its so muddy. it just souinds like..mush.

i like mid scooping. but there can be too much of a good thing.
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It depends what you're playing. Lots of mids desn't exactly sound great for heavy metal


Maybe not overexagerated (sp?) mids, but atleast the mid on about 4 (depending on amp) is good. Also for heavy metal.

Though I must say, nowhere does it say lots of mid's is bad for heavy metal. I've heard great metal tones with lots of mids.

And I beleive slayer uses lots of mids. Even though I don't like their tone, nor their music
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Listen to my Schecter of Metal clip on my profile and tell me lots of mids makes for terrible tone.
At least you can hear what's being played. :\

And yeah. to the poster above, that's exactly what I don't get.
They're insanely technical, but that's useless if you can't hear what's being played due to totally scooped out mids.
Their stuff isn't too bad on a really decent set of headphones, and Annihilation of The Wicked is actually pretty awesome sounding through some decent studio quality monitors, but most people (or so it seems) listen through earbud headphones or computer speakers, and Nile sounds like **** on both of those 9 times out of 10.

Shame.


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#16
I don't like Nile's tone per se but I think it works within the music and I don't think it's anywhere near as muddy as some people say it is.
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Maybe not overexagerated (sp?) mids, but atleast the mid on about 4 (depending on amp) is good. Also for heavy metal.

Though I must say, nowhere does it say lots of mid's is bad for heavy metal. I've heard great metal tones with lots of mids.

And I beleive slayer uses lots of mids. Even though I don't like their tone, nor their music

they definitely scoop their mids. a good example is megadeth when it comes to metal bands with a lot of mids. they have it like 7-8 on their amps and have quite a bit of treble but not so much bass
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they definitely scoop their mids. a good example is megadeth when it comes to metal bands with a lot of mids. they have it like 7-8 on their amps and have quite a bit of treble but not so much bass


kerry king boosts the **** out of his mids

jeff henneman on the other hand not so much
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#19
Why would you listen to a Technical Death Metal band that sings about Egypt for their tone.

Ps. I'd like to see you play an 11 string with a better tone.
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I've never seen anyone compliment their tone before this thread.
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they definitely scoop their mids. a good example is megadeth when it comes to metal bands with a lot of mids. they have it like 7-8 on their amps and have quite a bit of treble but not so much bass

But then if you compare that with Metallica, who sound much heavier than 'Deth, they scoop their mids to about 3.
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kerry king boosts the **** out of his mids

jeff henneman on the other hand not so much

i always thought slayer scooped their mids >.>. also it depends on what amp you are using, like metallica on their earlier albums scooped their mids on marshall jcm800's while megadeth did the opposite on some custom amps for rust in peace
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i always thought slayer scooped their mids >.>. also it depends on what amp you are using, like metallica on their earlier albums scooped their mids on marshall jcm800's while megadeth did the opposite on some custom amps for rust in peace


Slayer are boosted mids ahoy, always have been.