#1
Ive got an SSS Fender MIM strat and while i like the tone i can get with my middle and neck pickups, i find my bridge to be completely weak and not have very good sound. I was wondering that if a pickup change would help completely change that. I was thinking of getting a humbucker but the size of a single in it but i dont know. I play mostly ska, so im trying to get a tone like Reel Big Fish and Streetlight Manifesto, but i feel that i could get them pretty well with my neck and middle pickups. I would rather get a tone of more beefy tone to play some 80s rock...nothing hard just able to get a beefy tone is all. Would hot rails work? or mini humbucker? or something...i doubt one pickup would cost more than $100 so...yeah recommend me one please.
Thanks.
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#2
I would recommend checking underneath your pickguard, see if it's routed for a humbucker in the bridge. That will give you a lot more models to look at it.

I think ska needs a fairly bright and spanky tone, so I don't recommend a humbucker, though, honestly.
I have a hot (higher output) Seymour Duncan single coil pickup for sale..Check it out. Definitely will 'beef' up your sound.
#3
I can get good ska tone from my middle and neck pickup so im happy with those.

What sort of tone might the pickup give? Such a vague question sorry, i just dont know much about pickups.
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#4
It's obviously much hotter than most single coils, since it's easily got twice the output. It's pretty dark (more bottom end), but it still retains some of the single coil vibe with the top end of the sound spectrum. The bridge/middle position usually sounds super thin on Strats, but with this pickup, it's more full and usable. Definitely good for hard rock, if you have a Strat, but want to keep is pure SSS config.

I just wanted a vintage output guitar, so it wasn't for me.

Remember, check under your pickguard, to see the routing. If it has HSH routing, which many MIM Strats do...I have a couple of full sized humbucker recs up my sleeve.
#5
+1^

If you like the SSS look then go with the stacked version mentioned above like the Hot rails. If you do go HSS get a new pick gaurd and then the trembucker version like this:

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=856055&highlight=trembucker+vs+humbucker

also most MIM strats are pre-routed HSS like this, at least recent ones not sure on age of your guitar. it's easy tho - just look.
Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Jun 8, 2008,
#6
Just wanted those that have been asking to know that i finally got my Seymour Duncan SH11 Custom Custom Trembucker installed to replace my SD SH-4 JB that replaced the stock HB.

All 3 are in this thread if you use link for PoRnage. to Trembucker thread.

Anyway, I am extremely happy with this pup. It has the classic rock or metal sound i wanted out of a bridge pickup. I'm finally able to toggle between Mid and Bridge and have 2 different sounding guitars which is why i bought an HSS to begin with.

Have I mentioned how good Duncan's exchange policy is?

anyway, i may create a new thread after i spend some time - just now starting to enjoy.

no need to post - 'pics or it didn't happen' lol ...as that is my guitar in all pics.

the white pups were stock, and is all black and duncan now, which is just the way i like it. i recommend the SH-11 for strat heads that want that kind of flip of a switch!

def worth the 80 bucks or whatever.

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#7
I want to stick with the single coil look and seeing as Seymour Duncan is a good company (so i heard) what other pickup would you recommend besides the one forsaknazrael already mentioned? Thanks
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Fender MIM Standard Stratocaster
Squire Stratocaster
Vox AD30VT
Boss DS-1
Boss Super Chorus
Ibanez Weeping Demon Wah Pedal
#8
Well, here are a few more:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/stratocaster/index.php?page=2

The JB JR, or Li'l Screamon Demon might work for you. Check out the tone chart to give you a feel of output of each and styles recommended. I haven't played thru any of them and sorry to highjack your thread ; )

i just re-read that you are not looking for heavy metal or anything so check out the JB and then some of the vintage stylies as well.

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#9
I checked out the JB Jr.™ SJBJ-1 and it so far seems what im looking for. Will this give me a thicker or...beefier tone? Also in a way will it sound like a humbucker, cause even though its single coil size and they call it a humbucker, will it sound like one? thanks.
My Gear:
Fender MIM Standard Stratocaster
Squire Stratocaster
Vox AD30VT
Boss DS-1
Boss Super Chorus
Ibanez Weeping Demon Wah Pedal
#10
It's a pretty common problem. I've got two other great pickups on my guitar, so I'm fine without using the third.

Unless you're not satisfied with the other pickups either; don't change anything.
#11
Quote by mr_hankey
It's a pretty common problem. I've got two other great pickups on my guitar, so I'm fine without using the third.

Unless you're not satisfied with the other pickups either; don't change anything.

good points.

Personally, i like the single coils on my mim strat. they're fine. but when i would switch to HB only that stock pup didn't do anything for me. but even with the stock HB i could tell that it was darker, fuller and more rock sounding.

then i upgraded to the JB SH-4 and WHOA! bid difference. but still not quite what i was looking for and so i called Duncan and asked and they helped me walk thru my decision. they sent me the SH-11, i swappy, and now sending back the JB for the Custom Custom SH-11.

so sorry to belabor this but you can use your stock SCs to play blues and use pos 5 for HB for your Rock! i've not played thru a SC sized HB but you can imagine it is not quite the same. from what i've heard it is about 1/2 way between a SC and a HB.

is that fair guys?

call Seymourduncan.com's Customer Service number and talk it thru with them. the dude i got was extremely helpful. they are probably still there tonight too.

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Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at May 16, 2008,
#13
you can just attach the bridge pup to a tone pot.

and to add to the chorus,
duncan rails sound like really hot singles to me. the jb especially trebly, like said.
Jenneh

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#14
i used 250K pots with JB and yes it was trebley (hence the swappy) but still richer than a stock MIM single coil.

maybe a SH-5 Custom would suit well. or a '59 - but i don't know anything about the '59.

and jj - were you saying you can or you cannot just attach an HB to tone pot? i had a 'friend' do mine and i think he said there were 7 solder joints he did when he was done so i am assuming there was more to it than i expected. no split coil either. i'll have to ask him 'cause i wasn't paying attention.

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#15
im sorry, im a bit tired.

i was trying to say that if he didnt want to buy a new single. and thought his MIM stock bridge single was lifeless, he could try it attached to a tone pot.

see if he likes it better.
Jenneh

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#17
got it....i thought that was a stock set up for selector switch position 4.

bridge and mid on same pot, but i could very well be mistaken. i think my next step might be to do split coil for HB and am now kinda p*ssed that i didn't think of that before but as much as i'm messing around, i guess i'll get to it. you two are the greatest btw.

well, he's got some good ideas to ponder...



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#18
Thanks guys, so i guess i got the choice of actually calling Duncan and let me them help me pick one that best suites what im looking for or i could attach my bridge pu to a tone pot see if that helps. Oh and thanks for telling me that the JB was trebly cause thats not really what im looking for. Thanks
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Squire Stratocaster
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Boss DS-1
Boss Super Chorus
Ibanez Weeping Demon Wah Pedal
#19
Quote by mr_hankey
It's a pretty common problem. I've got two other great pickups on my guitar, so I'm fine without using the third.

Unless you're not satisfied with the other pickups either; don't change anything.


depends what you want it for, i guess. my tokai bridge pickup does sound a bit thin, but i have enough guitars that i want my tokai strat to sound like a strat (and position 4 won't sound as good with a humbucker in there), as i have other guitars for the humbucker stuff. but if that strat were my only guitar, that bridge pickup would be out of there so fast...
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#20
Quote by Tarts42
Thanks guys, so i guess i got the choice of actually calling Duncan and let me them help me pick one that best suites what im looking for or i could attach my bridge pu to a tone pot see if that helps. Oh and thanks for telling me that the JB was trebly cause thats not really what im looking for. Thanks

Do you mean, using the pickup selector wizard on seymourduncan.com? It's not that great.
#21
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
got it....i thought that was a stock set up for selector switch position 4.

bridge and mid on same pot, but i could very well be mistaken. i think my next step might be to do split coil for HB and am now kinda p*ssed that i didn't think of that before but as much as i'm messing around, i guess i'll get to it. you two are the greatest btw.

well, he's got some good ideas to ponder...



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if you ever open it up again, you can try a try a toggle switch. pretty fun and easy to install.



and yeah i think he meant a live person^
Jenneh

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#22
^tnx JJ

Yeah, unfortunately I WILL be going back in as I have a different problem now. I'm either going to have to learn to solder myself or take it in and have it done professionally.

the first time we did this with my JB the 5 way did not work properly. so, i ordered the Custom Custom TB-11 and had that done by same friend only now the 5 way works but i don't think ANY of the tone controls work on ANY of the pups????

The TB-11 sounds amazing to me, but now I'm curious. Were you saying use the existing 5 way or get another toggle added?

and yes, i was referring to Duncan's customer service number listed on their web site. Those guys are Great! I would call before trying to determine anything off the Tone Chart/wizard whatever.

tnx again! ....

311zoso
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Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at May 18, 2008,
#23
Quote by Dave_Mc
depends what you want it for, i guess. my tokai bridge pickup does sound a bit thin, but i have enough guitars that i want my tokai strat to sound like a strat (and position 4 won't sound as good with a humbucker in there), as i have other guitars for the humbucker stuff. but if that strat were my only guitar, that bridge pickup would be out of there so fast...


If you want a strat to sound like a strat, you've got four other great sounds to choose from. I'd be entirely satisfied with just the neck pickup, actually.
#24
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
^tnx JJ

Yeah, unfortunately I WILL be going back in as I have a different problem now. I'm either going to have to learn to solder myself or take it in and have it done professionally.

the first time we did this with my JB the 5 way did not work properly. so, i ordered the Custom Custom TB-11 and had that done by same friend only now the 5 way works but i don't think ANY of the tone controls work on ANY of the pups????

The TB-11 sounds amazing to me, but now I'm curious. Were saying use the existing 5 way or get another toggle added?

and yes, i was referring to Duncan's customer service number listed on their web site. Those guys are Great! I would call before trying to determine anything off the Tone Chart/wizard whatever.

tnx again! ....

311zoso
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Post pics in the GBC forum. i'll helps.
#25
311zoso post a thread in GBC, and ill actually go in there and look too.

and you seemed upset that you didnt split the humbucker. i was saying, if you didnt want to buy a push pull pot, that, a switch is another option.

but i suggest you get ur guitar working correctly first.
Jenneh

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#27
Quote by mr_hankey
If you want a strat to sound like a strat, you've got four other great sounds to choose from. I'd be entirely satisfied with just the neck pickup, actually.


i agree (not about the neck pickup, i like the other pickups too, lol), but as i said it depends what you want. if that were my only guitar, i would need a bridge humbucker tone for the heavier stuff much more than i would need the (admittedly extremely nice) in-between sound. i can only have the luxury of having a strat sound like a strat if it's not my only guitar, basically (and I assume that's the same for a lot of other people too, especially if you play a lot of high gain stuff).

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#29
try adding a switch for bridge/neck and all 3 combos
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