#1
As the title says, I need a good practice amp. I have settled on a PRS SE Singlecut, a Peavey Triple XXX Super 40 combo, and a Boss ME-50 as my main rig (I'll be buying all that soon). I know you'll all have comments about that, but I need help with the last thing I'll add to my gear, the practice amp.

The main problem I'm having is I'll be bring an amp to school for rehearsals and stuff, maybe up to 3 times a week, and I don't want to bring my big ol' tubey back and forth every time. It's heavy, cumbersome, and I don't wanna be banging it around over and over every two days. What I need help with is, which practice amp should I get that has DECENT (not necessarily AWESOME) tone, that I can practice with alongside a drummer, another guitarist, and a bassist? (this is not our own band, this is like a school band, we'll be playing stuff for the school) I don't want to compromise a lot of tone, but I need at maximum a 20 watt solidstate. I only plan to bring the Triple XXX to the actual shows, but for rehearsals, I need something light, dependable, and decent in tone.

Again, the things I need:
-around or under 20 watts SS. I'll be playing with the usual band setup, drummer, guitarist, bassist, singers. I don't need one loud enough for any audience, just for us to hear each other. We won't be playing very loud music either anyway, no metal or heavy rock, so it doesn't need to be THAT loud, just loud enough.
-one that won't greatly compromise tone; again, I'll be using a PRS SE and Boss ME-50 multi-effects.(I know you all have comments about that but lets stick with discussing the practice amp ) For the actual shows I'll be using the Triple XXX so tone isn't THAT big of a deal here, because I won't have an audience while using the practice amp. I don't want a crappy one though, I hope you get me
-I would very much like one with some kind of direct out or line out for putting through a PA system. With your suggestions, could you say whether the amp you're suggesting also monitors while that line out is being used? In other words, whether the amp's speaker is still in use when the line out to a PA system is being used.

I hope I made sense. I really need help here.. any suggestions will be greatly, greatly appreciated.

P.S. as for budget, I'm guessing the best SS practice amp under 20 watts will still be within my budget, so I just need suggestions that fit the criteria. Thanks again in advance.
#2
You say you want an SS one, but seeing as you'll be getting effects from your Boss, you could get a small valve amp like a Peavey Super Colossal, Epiphone Valve Jr, Crate Blackheart etc. That way, you'll have the same volume as a 20W SS amp, but it will sound better at the higher volumes.

Though if you're set on SS, or your budget dictates that, there's the Vox Valvetronix, Roland Cube, Fender G-DEC ranges ...

Do you have a specific budget in mind?
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#3
If you're using the ME-50, I'd go with a Roland Cube because the effects will sound very good through it. I'd say the 30 or 50, to have a little extra volume just in case.
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#4
not really...I'm thinking, the most expensive under-20-watt SS would probably still be within my budget.
#5
Quote by Sid McCall
If you're using the ME-50, I'd go with a Roland Cube because the effects will sound very good through it. I'd say the 30 or 50, to have a little extra volume just in case.


yeah, I've been considering the Cube..I just won't be using the effects on it, so I might be spending extra money on something I don't need. wait, the Cube has its own effects right? correct me if I'm wrong..
#6
I'd go with a Roland Cube. They have inbuilt effects that are apparently pretty good, and they're probably one of the most respected solid state practice amps.
#7
I dont think you're gonna cover a drummer, a guitarist, and bassist with a 20 watt amp...maybe just enough, but 10 more watts might be useful. I've heard good things from Roland Cubes. They have a 30 watter.

Any "line out" should have the speaker still remain on, otherwise the jack would be labeled as "extension speaker." Unless theres some cheap amps that don't label things right...
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Quote by emr_steelmech

Any "line out" should have the speaker still remain on, otherwise the jack would be labeled as "extension speaker." Unless theres some cheap amps that don't label things right...


ahh...does the roland cube have a line out or extension speaker then?
#10
If you have effects already, I honestly would suggest the Peavey Trans-tube series...they're the closest I've seen a SS come to tube-sound. Still not there, but better than most solid states. Crate has some good ones too.


The line out on the Cube mutes it, btw

edit: The Cube 60 has an external speaker out, I dunno about the smaller ones.
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#11
yeah, those are one of my options. How about the other little peaveys, the Audition, Backstage, and Solo?
#12
the peavey transtube rage has a direct out and a headphone jack, I'm guessing the direct out means line out, am I correct?
#13
the distortion on a peavey backstage ive tried was the worst thing ive ever heard in my life
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#14
Those are all in the Trans-Tube series...they all basically sound the same, but the bigger the speaker gets the better it sounds.

I'd go with the Envoy or the Bandit. Any smaller and they sound kinda' trebley. The Bandit is an 80-watter with an external speaker output, and is an absolutely brilliant solid-state amp. The Envoy is like its little brother..


Quote by Jaekae
the distortion on a peavey backstage ive tried was the worst thing ive ever heard in my life


...the backstage is a 10-watter with a 6" speaker...what did you expect? It's rather good considering the specs on it.
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#15
Quote by Jaekae
the distortion on a peavey backstage ive tried was the worst thing ive ever heard in my life

but I have my own effects..
#16
Quote by Mutant Corn
Those are all in the Trans-Tube series...they all basically sound the same, but the bigger the speaker gets the better it sounds.

I'd go with the Envoy or the Bandit. Any smaller and they sound kinda' trebley. The Bandit is an 80-watter with an external speaker output, and is an absolutely brilliant solid-state amp.


It's kinda, too big for what I need.
I'll go try em out though. Okay, so far the suggestions have been the Roland Cube and Peavey's transtube. how do those compare with each other? I'm leaning towards the Peavey Rage. Same price as a 15 watt Cube, but it's 25 watts. What do you think? any other suggestions? how about the Ibanez TBX? I've heard only good things about it, though it's quite unknown.
#17
my bad, missed the post above...yes, direct out means line out. And I'm thinking the Envoy would be more your size. The Rage is good, but it still has an 8" speaker and the Envoy offers many more options...plus the direct out on it is much better.


And for future reference man, you're not supposed to double-post...there's an edit button so you can add stuff on. If you do it too much you get warned...not fun.

I don't know a lot about the Ibanez, but their stuff is generally good quality.
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#19
Not a problem I did the same thing when I started.

It's 40 watts....I suggested it more for its specs though. Simply having a bigger speaker will make it sound loads better. It's also footswitchable, and has individual equalizers for each channel....both very good improvements.

envoy:

# 40 Watts (rms)
# 10” Blue Marvel(R) speaker
# High and Low Gain inputs
# TransTube tube emulation circuitry
# Footswichable Clean and Lead channels
# 3 band passive EQ on each channel
# 3 position EQ/Gain Voicing switch on each channel
# Reverb with level control
# Footswitchable Boost with level control
# ¼” stereo Speaker Simulated Direct Out jack
# Headphone jack
# Footswitch optional


Rage:

* 25 watts (rms)
* 8 inch super-duty Blue Marvel® speaker
* Two switchable channels: clean and lead
* 3-band EQ
* Tape/CD input
* Modern/vintage voicing switch
* Headphone jack
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#21
wow thanks for the help man. I'll be going amp shopping soon. XD Those are my main choices. Does anyone else have suggestions? maybe other brands, with the criteria in the first post in this thread...thanks.

You gotta convince me to NOT take a Transtube.
#22
Anything, generally, is fair game. If you find one you like better, go ahead and get it

Don't get a digital amp, though....that's the reason the Cube was so expensive. Roland, Line 6, and Crate make a lot of these. Most any amp that has a bunch of built-in effects is digital, and you pay extra for stuff you won't use with those.
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#23
yeah, that's exactly why I wasn't really digging the cube. It's 10 watts less than the rage for the same price, plus I don't need the onboard effects. I might get the envoy. Still deciding between the rage and envoy though. And I still gotta actually try them out. But thanks for the help.

Does anyone else have any suggestions, comments?
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