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#1
Ok before anyone busts out and says this is in the wrong place, sorry I didnt know where to put it.
and before you say an epiphone is garbage or something along those lines, i dont care lol...i just play around for fun, im not good enough to have some 5 thousand dollar guitar.


ok well the day i bought my sg 400 i played it and it was fine, next day i started to notice if i go anywhere down past the 12th fret, the string hits on a lower fret
(example, i play a 14 on the high e string and the string hits somewhere like with 19th fret, rubs against it and mutes/makes the sound "tinny"). I can higher the hardware which raises my strings up, making it harder to play well (somewhat like an acoustic).

So the next day i took it back to the shop and told the guy to fix it or im returning it, it worked for a few hours and started again...so i threw it back on my guitar stand where it collects dust. Id rather play my good old reliable yamaha pacifica than that stupid sg. the pacifica was cheaper and plays better.

I was just wondering if there was anyway to get rid of this, while keeping the strings low enough to easily play. Thanks in advance for any tips.


my guitar looks like the middle pic on this site, thats the same hardware
http://www.chrisguitars.com/epi-bully-sg-bk.jpg

i have 4 knobs and mine is different, but you get the idea. thanks again anyone who can help
#2
It's called fret buzz.
Your action is to low.
Raise it.

Also, use a heavier gauge of string.
Are you using 9's?
I use to have a G-400
I had to use 10's (Ernie Ball, Regular Slinky) to fix my fret buzz problem.

Hope that helps
#3
the sg400 is not a bad guitar just overpriced IMO but maybe your neck is not properly setted or something is loose
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#4
ohhh haha, wow i just thought of something
i am using the original strings ill get new ones and try that
if not ill come back
im so stupid lol


any suggestions on pretty cheap strings that sound good i can pick up at any guitar store?

never even thought of getting new ones, noticed it sounded bad, got mad and threw it aside
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#5
raise the action, how hard is that?
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#8
i checked under everything with screws but the pickups (never again shall i remove them) no truss rod....huh?
#9
I hope theres a truss rod.
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#11
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It's in the neck of the guitar.
#13
wait a sec...did someone just say the G-400 was OVERPRICED?

the damn guitar cost $400 back when i got it a couple years ago and even then it was a steal. for $300 you can't find a gutiar as versatile and made with quality, minus a couple others out there. not to mention after upgrading pups and playing through a half decent amp it'll sound close to gibson level. play through an all tube amp and most wont know the difference unless you tell em'

overpriced.....HA! oh and yea that's fret buzz TS
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#14
take the truss rod cover off...unscrew the three screws on the headstock. the front side of the headstock has a little thing that looks almost like a bell, that says sg...take it off and there is the truss rod..
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#15
^^^

Yeah, I love the G-400. Very versatile in terms of basic tone. I run it through a 6505+ head. Great sound.

Anyway TS, there's a cap right after the nut that you can unscrew and use to modify the truss rod. Take it to a professional to do though. For 25 bucks and 5 minutes of work, you'll save yourself 1 hour and 400 bucks replacing it if you f*ck up.
#16
I always thoght guitar prfessionals charge too much...5 dollars per minutes? dang..
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#17
yeah, i just found that.
forget professionals, if i mess it up ill be back where i was with the yamaha pacifica, ohh well lol


What way should it be adjusted if the buzz is at the 12th-22nd fret?
thanks in advance
#18
look at the neck from the top to the body of the guitar. if its straight then you dont need to move it at all. if its a little bowed then you will need to either tighten it or loosen it. if its bowed outward then loosen it. if it is bowed inward then tighten it. but sometimes its ok if its a little bowed inward....but I dont think that is the problem. its the action...
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#19
^you prolly gotta specify to him which is considered 'outward' and 'inward'. no joke. also TS, there are tons of DIY explanations on google so check those out, that's what i did.
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#20
raising the action does nothing....hmmmm any suggestions?
Last edited by foxracer220 at May 18, 2008,
#21
well if you hold the guitar, like when you are playing, and the neck is bowed toward you, thats inward. if you see it away from you, then that is outward...
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#22
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alright what does this raise the action mean? ill do it after i get new strings tomorrow


you probably dont even need new strings...but raise the action by raising the bridge. the bridge is the part taht the strings go over, the metal thing with the saddles....well you will need a screw driver, screw it so it goes higher. it will raise the strings up and so it wont be hitting the frets...sorry not very good at explaining...
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#24
^ not really since he says his yamaha sounds good...
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#25
yeah, i made fixed it, no fret buzz, one problem though, the strings are very high...like an acoustic which makes me want to play the yamaha...lol..anything else i can do?
and no its not bad technique and i think i need new strings if i have the original shop strings on, most people i see change them right away.
#26
its not the strings, they will still be high...did you raise the action, or did you adjust the truss rod?
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#27
action, neck is perfectly straight, i want the strings lower
i cant even properly bend without my fingers going under the next string and when i change notes it rings the string my finger went under which ruins it. something is wrong, the strings are way to high. i can stick my finger tip under them, and if i go any lower i get the fret buzz...
#28
well then I would suggest loosening the truss rod a little, so the neck is bowed just a little inward. then lower the action. that way, since its bowed it wont hit the frets.
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#30
haha, well I am not sure. try half a turn and then tighten the sixth stiring and check, then if it is good then leave it. if it isnt good yet then you will want to loosen it a little more. also keep lowering the action...its going to take a while. it took me around an hour to adjust mine to a good/ok action...

edit: if you have the money I would suggest taking it to a specialist or proffecional...even thought they overcharge...
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#31
i just take it to the shop and say i bought this here, heres the receipt, fix it or i buy nothing from you ever again. always works lol. places around here are pretty loyal to customers. ill try myself tomorrow morning, going to the shop in the afternoon anyway
thanks
#34
ok well, i got new strings, im putting them on now, and im trying to get the fret buzz out one by one. Is there any certain thing i should do. maybe raise the bridge all the way up and lower it until there is no more buzz and adjust the saddles?

can anyone help? thanks in advance
#35
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wait a sec...did someone just say the G-400 was OVERPRICED?

the damn guitar cost $400 back when i got it a couple years ago and even then it was a steal. for $300 you can't find a gutiar as versatile and made with quality, minus a couple others out there. not to mention after upgrading pups and playing through a half decent amp it'll sound close to gibson level. play through an all tube amp and most wont know the difference unless you tell em'

overpriced.....HA! oh and yea that's fret buzz TS


actually i have dounf guitars for 200$ that play way better than any epiphone or any guitar in that price range
what brand? you may ask
the answer palmer, the best guitar i have ever played, my friend bought it 2 weeks ago and the thing is exetrmely awesome, is a LP copy
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#37
lol can anyone help? i can move the string height with the bridge, the saddles are doing nothing...this is a rather irritating $300 investment
#39
Its guys like the ts that keeps us repair guys in business.
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#40
WHOA

if you cant find the truss rod, you shouldnt be going ANYWHERE near it

try a different string gauge
Get off this damn forum and play your damn guitar.
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