#1
Hi, At the moment I have an Epiphone Les Paul Custom. I really love my guitar but also want to go a step up. Im not sure whether to save for a gibson or to just get new pick-ups and stuff for my epiphone anyone have any ideas?
#4
the quality of a gibson is higher than an epiphone. they are made of better materials, and the pickups are always much better. but the epiphone custom is a nice guitar. does yours have any playability issues? any fret buzz or anything like that? if it does i would try and get a gibson. if not, just upgrade your epiphone. as long as it plays well, then there's really no need to shell the big bucks on the gibson...yet!!
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#5
No, not definitely. Don't underestimate the power of a bond between a man and his guitar. Also, it depends on style. If you like EMG pickups anyway, why not just put em in the epi instead of buying the gibson jsut to change its pups anyway.

It's kind of a personal decision, just play both and go where the music takes you.
#7
Yh does anyone know what sort of pick-ups i shld use if im gonna play like Guns N Roses stuff?
#8
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#9
na id go for the jb?jazz combo way more versitile
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#10
Quote by psychokiller99
the quality of a gibson is higher than an epiphone. they are made of better materials, and the pickups are always much better.


not always true. if you have a good epi custon itll be better than a lot of gibsons and you are already used to it to boot.

drop some hot new pups in her and give the old girl a new lease of life...
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#11
Quote by oneblackened
Seymour Duncan Alnico II pro's.


classic g n r sound right there... crank your amp gain and volume... roll your tone mostly off... play up the neck. slashtastic
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#12
Quote by oneblackened
Seymour Duncan Alnico II pro's.

Exactly the pickups Slash uses. Therefore, I concur
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#13
Quote by psychokiller99
the quality of a gibson is higher than an epiphone. they are made of better materials, and the pickups are always much better. but the epiphone custom is a nice guitar. does yours have any playability issues? any fret buzz or anything like that? if it does i would try and get a gibson. if not, just upgrade your epiphone. as long as it plays well, then there's really no need to shell the big bucks on the gibson...yet!!
i agree pick-ups are the only big diff when talking gibson vs. epiphone so i say if there's no neck,nut, tuner or fret problem just ugrade the epiphone
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#14
I'd say upgrade the epiphone, the only visual differences is the fact thats gibsons have pearl inlays and epiphones are just a mock pearl. The sound is, obviously, going to be different, but upgrading pickups and the bridge etc. can make your epiphone sound, sometimes, even better than a gibson.
#15
Quote by FooFighter999
I really love my guitar.


then why sell it ?


slap some new pups in that thing and you're good to go.
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#16
Quote by Aggrivated
I'd say upgrade the epiphone, the only visual differences is the fact thats gibsons have pearl inlays and epiphones are just a mock pearl. The sound is, obviously, going to be different, but upgrading pickups and the bridge etc. can make your epiphone sound, sometimes, even better than a gibson.

Wrong. Gibson uses Pearloid too.
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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#17
Do inlays really serve more of a purpose than marking the fret that you are at? I don't believe so myself. I'm just saying as far as some Gibson's go the only difference between them and their sister (the epiphone copy) are visual elements and obviously toned down electronics. It's amazing what a few upgrades can do.
#18
Quote by strater52
i agree pick-ups are the only big diff when talking gibson vs. epiphone so i say if there's no neck,nut, tuner or fret problem just ugrade the epiphone

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#19
Gibson. Pick up any Gibson then any Epi. Same model. You will notice that the Gibson is much heavier. The tonewood in the Epi is cheap and nasty. Good, solid tonewood will add to sustain and depth. I've never played an Epi I really liked.
#20
Quote by Zander155
Gibson. Pick up any Gibson then any Epi. Same model. You will notice that the Gibson is much heavier. The tonewood in the Epi is cheap and nasty. Good, solid tonewood will add to sustain and depth. I've never played an Epi I really liked.

I'm not tryin to be a smartass or anything, because what you say is very true, but were you comparing the Gibsom Les Pauls to the Epi Les Pauls made from mahogany and alder? Or were you comparing them to the Epi LP Custom models that are actually mahogany bodied? I haven't made the comparison myself (no chance to around here where they only sell fenders and cheap BC Riches and Schecters).
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

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Stupid name.
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#21
Quote by Shinozoku
I'm not tryin to be a smartass or anything, because what you say is very true, but were you comparing the Gibsom Les Pauls to the Epi Les Pauls made from mahogany and alder? Or were you comparing them to the Epi LP Custom models that are actually mahogany bodied? I haven't made the comparison myself (no chance to around here where they only sell fenders and cheap BC Riches and Schecters).

No, you weren't being a smart ass at all. No, I've picked up Mahogany Epis and compared them with (Mahogany) Gibsons.
#22
Quote by Zander155
Gibson. Pick up any Gibson then any Epi. Same model. You will notice that the Gibson is much heavier. The tonewood in the Epi is cheap and nasty. Good, solid tonewood will add to sustain and depth. I've never played an Epi I really liked.


I dont really think that a guitar being heavy would generally make it better than one that isnt. Some people (some Les paul owners included) dont like heavy guitars at all, or have trouble with them because of back problems.

As I've read about guitars over the years - weight doesnt always mean more sustain. Example 1: Semi-Hollow and Hollow body guitars. Example 2: Oak - a very heavy wood but does not sustain well at all.

Generally, these days Gibson and Epiphone use just about the same woods, with the exception of some of Gibsons customs. Though Im not sure what you mean by "nasty tonewood". Are you trying to say Epi's use rotting pine for their guitar line??

Just because you havent played an epiphone you've liked, doesnt mean good ones dont exist. The TS stated he loves his guitar, I think thats enough for him to keep it.
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#24
Quote by Beets!
I dont really think that a guitar being heavy would generally make it better than one that isnt. Some people (some Les paul owners included) dont like heavy guitars at all, or have trouble with them because of back problems.

As I've read about guitars over the years - weight doesnt always mean more sustain. Example 1: Semi-Hollow and Hollow body guitars. Example 2: Oak - a very heavy wood but does not sustain well at all.

Generally, these days Gibson and Epiphone use just about the same woods, with the exception of some of Gibsons customs. Though Im not sure what you mean by "nasty tonewood". Are you trying to say Epi's use rotting pine for their guitar line??

Just because you havent played an epiphone you've liked, doesnt mean good ones dont exist. The TS stated he loves his guitar, I think thats enough for him to keep it.

You don't get that feeling when you pick up an Epi? I feel like I am going to break it, the guitar is so light. You are right is saying that weight =/= sustain but a denser wood will have more sustain than the same wood that is less dense. I do in fact know awesome epis exist. If he is happy with his he should keep it unless he has a good amount of money to spend.
#25
I say upgrade your Epiphone. I customized my Epi Explorer and it plays and sounds great. I am making payments on a used Gibson V so I can't say don't get a Gibson, but if you don't have alot of money upgrading your Epi will be cheaper and it will sound good too. You can always get a Gibson later.
#26
I upgraded my Epi, mostly cos £100 on a couple of Kent Armstrongs is far less painful than 1500 on a Gibson! It has made a huge difference to the guitar. Probably a genuine gibson would be better, but I'm happy for now and my wallet feels heavier than otherwise!!
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#27
Quote by hans the lefty
na id go for the jb?jazz combo way more versitile

If he wants a Guns n Roses sound why would he buy those pickups when he could get the Seymour Duncan Alnico 2 pros which are the pickups Slash uses?

They are probably better but not for Slashes tone!!
#28
I'd just upgrade the epi.

Graphtech nut and bridge saddles, new pickups and perhaps new control pots and you'd have a f*cking workhorse!
#29
Quote by FooFighter999
Yh does anyone know what sort of pick-ups i shld use if im gonna play like Guns N Roses stuff?

I would recommend Gibson Burstbuckers.
Can be installed into an Epi. Quite expensive, though.
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#30
Well, you have a decent Epi.. so just upgrade it? Unless you have a couple thousand dollars that are just burning a hole in your pocket or something.
#31
Well, it really depends if you have the money or not. If you have £500, you can't get the Gibson, but you can make the Epi sound nice. You wouldn't have the playabilty of the Gibson, or the upgraded everything, but it would sound nice.

If you have £2000, you could get the Gibson, with the upgraded everything, and spare to upgrade bits that you aren't too keen on. And, you have to admit, a Gibson is cool, even if people say otherwise.
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#32
or... get a gibson
get the pickups you were gonna switch to
put the pickups you put out into the epiphone
and well, thats assuming that you were putting new pups in like sum1 b4 me said
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