#1
hi
i am at the begining of learning music theory road
but i ve gone a little forward trying figure out some songs scale
about the unforgiven song by metallica (1991 ) i tried to figure out the scale used within and i came to A minor
can some one correct me
and how do you exactly figure the songs scale just by recognizing the intervals ? and progressions?
many thanks
#4
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but actually most of the song can be done in C, using the augmented 5th scale



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#5
Quote by Martindecorum
but actually most of the song can be done in C, using the augmented 5th scale
Otherwise called the A harmonic minor scale, which is really close to what t/s said.
#6
A minor. Does anyone else think this is Hammet's best solo?
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#7
curiosity had been killing me
i just look at the some tabs of the song mostly fit into A minor
but some notes seems th be out of the scale
for ex at the intro solo there is slide from B(third string ) to G# backward
whats that G# ?
#9
^No it doesnt, it just means its used as an accidental. Harmonic minor means a certain type of progression where i-V7 is used. Leading tones are really common accidentals
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curiosity had been killing me
i just look at the some tabs of the song mostly fit into A minor
but some notes seems th be out of the scale
for ex at the intro solo there is slide from B(third string ) to G# backward
whats that G# ?
G# is the leading tone of the minor scale, it means the note leads to A really nicely.
Last edited by demonofthenight at May 19, 2008,
#10
Harmonic minor means a certain type of progression where i-V7 is used.
Really? I always though harmonic minor was a scale
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#11
thanks
i am not that good at theory
about that G# i know that A minor leading tone is G not G# so whats the theory behind raising that G half step to achive better sound here ?
#12
Quote by Ænimus Prime
Really? I always though harmonic minor was a scale
It is...
Yes I know, scale is a group of notes. But most composers use the M7 heaps in minor keys, sure its not technically part of the natural minor scale. But you shouldnt say "Oh theres a G# in what would otherwise be A minor, it must be A harmonic minor." What really defines harmonic minor (and the real purpose for its creation) is the i-V7 progression.

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about that G# i know that A minor leading tone is G not G# so whats the theory behind raising that G half step to achive better sound here ?
Heres where it gets sort of tricky and stupid, G is a m7 in relation to the A minor. m7's arent leading tones and cant be called leading tones, they're called sub-tonics instead. And I've already explained why the G# is used. Once again, it progresses really nicely to the A.
#13
But most composers use the M7 heaps in minor keys, sure its not technically part of the natural minor scale. But you shouldnt say "Oh theres a G# in what would otherwise be A minor, it must be A harmonic minor.
There's no key of harmonic minor, in a minor key you use natural minor and harmonic minor together. That's how I see it anyway.

What really defines harmonic minor (and the real purpose for its creation) is the i-V7 progression
Surely you mean V7-i?
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#14
Quote by Ænimus Prime
There's no key of harmonic minor, in a minor key you use natural minor and harmonic minor together. That's how I see it anyway.
Surely you mean V7-i?
Maybe it goes good both ways. Specifically using the harmonic minor scale means using that sort of progression.
#15
Quote by Ænimus Prime
A minor. Does anyone else think this is Hammet's best solo?

its the song that made me wanna play guitar so i'll go with yes. quite possibly his best solo.
#16
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Maybe it goes good both ways. Specifically using the harmonic minor scale means using that sort of progression.

No, that's just the usual situation where harmonic minor is applied.
#17
Quote by dimebag1d
thanks
i am not that good at theory
about that G# i know that A minor leading tone is G not G# so whats the theory behind raising that G half step to achive better sound here ?



The G# is from 7th note of the A hamonic minor scale when you start the count from A
1,2b3,5,b6,7
#18
i hate to say this...but one song doesnt have to be in one scale...
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