#3
ES-335.

I find that you could get better cleans, and I enjoy the overdrive a lot more as it's warmer. Good for classic rock, blues, jazz, and quite a bit else.

The Junior on the other hand doesn't appeal to me as much.
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Quote by Kid_Thorazine
I' like the ES-335 out of those two, what do you plan on using it for?

anything from classic rock - metal
#5
ES-335, without a question. The Junior is the entry model of the Gibsons, as you well know - ES-335 is one of their better guitars, and truly beats the Junior in every way. The Junior is meant to be an entry level guitar, while the ES is a true pro's weapon.
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#7
Hollow body for metal? Youve gotta be ****ing kidding me. Thatll feedback like crazy in a bad way. For classic rock and metal, you want a regular les paul (with humbuckers)!
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#8
For metal type stuff, you're probably better off with the Les Paul Junior, but it really depends how much you play metal rather than Classic rock
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#9
ES-335. It's one of Gibson's best guitars
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#10
I say neither. If you're playing metal, a semi- hollowbody's a bad idea. The non- custom shop Juniors are generally crap. Why not an LP or an SG?
#11
Quote by UnresolvdMurder
For metal type stuff, you're probably better off with the Les Paul Junior, but it really depends how much you play metal rather than Classic rock

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#12
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I say neither. If you're playing metal, a semi- hollowbody's a bad idea. The non- custom shop Juniors are generally crap. Why not an LP or an SG?

I hate SG's and I love LP's but I like Hollow bodies more and the LP Jr's
#14
Definately the ES-335 or if you the smaller form factor of the Les Paul Junior perhaps look at the ES-339
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#15
everyone whos saying es335 hasnt read he wants to play classic rock and metal.
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#16
Quote by Walternativo
everyone whos saying es335 hasnt read he wants to play classic rock and metal.

and everything between
#17
Quote by Walternativo
everyone whos saying es335 hasnt read he wants to play classic rock and metal.


Maybe you should refine your reading skills and read the entire thread first.
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#18
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Maybe you should refine your reading skills and read the entire thread first.


maybe you should kiss my ass. I did read everything. He said

Quote by Space Captain
anything from classic rock - metal


you dont buy an ES335 for metal.
Oh and everything in between classic rock and metal? Well some lighter gain classic rock at lower volumes should be ok, but youre gonna run into feedback problems as soon as you step in front of the amp or turn the volume up or turn the gain up.

The es335 was made for blues and jazz. Its not a shred monster.
A Les Paul, however, can handle that kind of gain without feedbacking.
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#19
Why are these two even being compared?

You're asking to choose between a single P-90 pickup, single cut, solid body, slim neck Les Paul, and a double humbucker, double cut, semi-hollowbody, fat neck ES. You can't get any more different.
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#21
If you cant make your mind up, just wait until you can, i can never understand ppl asking about guitars when people see the same thing completely differently

think about it yourself, and go play em, neither is really good for metal though
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#22
Um, I'm gonna suggest the ES-335.
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#23
Okay so thats a pretty odd match up, I know I want a hollow/semi hollow body so what about the Elitist Casino and the ES-339?
#24
Hmm a Casino is a defo no-no for metal. It wil just not be able to handle that amount of gain easily, it feedbacks without much effort and is more suited to cleaner stuff. A ES335 ain't ideal for metal, but it excels as a clean to low-gain guitar and can do medium gain fairly well without muddying too much. IMO a semi-hollow is always going to sound a bit brittle and weak at high gain regardless of pickups etc, it's just the way it resonates that makes it that way I think.
#25
Quote by Korzack
ES-335, without a question. The Junior is the entry model of the Gibsons, as you well know - ES-335 is one of their better guitars, and truly beats the Junior in every way. The Junior is meant to be an entry level guitar, while the ES is a true pro's weapon.


Sounds like you need to take your own advice, and not buy entry- level Gibsons.
#26
I wouldn't get any of those for metal, you pretty much need a solidbody for high gain stuff, and humbuckers are preferable as well which rules out the LP Junior.
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#27
Metal is what I play the least like I'll play metal three too four times a month. I'm more in to rock than anything else
#28
Go for the ES335 then. You seem to have your heart set on it and they are pretty sweet and versatile guitars
#29
Quote by Walternativo
Hollow body for metal? Youve gotta be ****ing kidding me. Thatll feedback like crazy in a bad way. For classic rock and metal, you want a regular les paul (with humbuckers)!


Its not exactly metal, but the guy from Coheed and Cambria recorded numerous tracks with an ES-335 and it got a pretty heavy sound.
#30
Quote by The Silent Fool
Its not exactly metal, but the guy from Coheed and Cambria recorded numerous tracks with an ES-335 and it got a pretty heavy sound.


yeah, but when recording you can isolate the speakers so you don't get feedback, in a live setting the feedback from a hollowbody with high gain would be horrible.
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#31
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
yeah, but when recording you can isolate the speakers so you don't get feedback, in a live setting the feedback from a hollowbody with high gain would be horrible.


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Quote by The Silent Fool
Solution? NS-2.


I've tried that, even good feedback eliminators don't work very well in this case unless you set the threshold super low, which kills your sustain.
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#33
Between the two, I'd take the ES-335. Go for a Studio or a Standard if you have the money instead if you want an LP.
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#34
i would go with the es 335... but it really is opinion if you like p90s or the humbuckers
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