#1
Can some explain this to me.

What voicing should you use for chords like these ?
The example say it's like a I,IV, V moment.

But the movement is this.
I, bVii, IV

It also said this movement is use for songs such as Sweet home alabama.
what type of chord...maj, min or dim for the bVii ?

here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_progression
Last edited by Ordinary at May 20, 2008,
#2
D C G is generally considered a V IV I progression in G major. However, in a blues/rock context, it could be considered I bVII IV in D. Most people will argue with me, but I consider "Sweet Home Alabama" to be in D, not G, and the use of many D blues licks in that first solo certainly doesn't hurt my argument (I don't know the second solo). Another song that uses a similar progression is Bad Company's "Feel Like Makin' Love," which goes D C G C. That is 100% in D and absolutely not in G.


Leave it to the blues to screw up everything you know about theory.
#3
okay..what I'm asking is
It's in the key of D, the C chord is Cmaj (bVii)

I guess that's why some of those ac/dc songs are kind of wacked.lol
#4
in the key of Dmaj the Cchord is Cdim(vii0)

EDIT:i heard some musicians say Cmaj7b5

which is the same as diminished just with the extra 7th note
song stuck in my head today


Last edited by lbc_sublime at May 20, 2008,
#6
Why is anyone talking about Cdim? There's a C#dim in D natural major, but not C and certainly not Cmaj7b5.

Quote by Ordinary
okay..what I'm asking is
It's in the key of D, the C chord is Cmaj (bVii)

I guess that's why some of those ac/dc songs are kind of wacked.lol
AC/DC uses the blues/rock idea presented in my earlier post.
#7
I talked about this in the NAME THAT CHORD thread.. but the bVII is the same chord as a Neapolitan 6 in the relative minor of the parent scale, so long as we are talking about a major key to start with. For example, in C major, a bVII would be Bb major, and in Am (the relative minor), the N6 is Bb major. They don't usually function the same, as the bVII usually goes to the I, where the N6 is a predominant, but it's a curious thing.

Oh and the Beatles' For No One and Help! feature a bVII chord.

Also.. in the key of Dmaj.. there would be no "C" chord. It'd be C#... and it would be diminished. If it's noted as a bVII it's a major chord (C major), thus the upper case numerals (and no + indicating an augmented chord).
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Which of themselves our minds impress;
That we can feed this mind of ours
In a wise passiveness.
--Wordsworth

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#8
yeah i don't have all my keys memorized i just new it was a C C# to be corrected

and although C#maj7b5(to correct again) isn't exactly in key it works great in a major progression

it just has the major 3rd instead of teh minor3rd
song stuck in my head today


Last edited by lbc_sublime at May 20, 2008,
#9
okay ..I'm going to have to read up on that thread.

I'm not famlilar with the Neapolitan.

Thanks
#11
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#12
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It has a major 7th as well.



i thought that was obvious with the maj7 chord implying it
song stuck in my head today


Last edited by lbc_sublime at May 21, 2008,
#13
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