#1
I am looking at a jackson dinky and I'm a little worried about the LFR they have.
Does anyone have some experience with them? What are the pros and cons about them and how do they compare to the OFR?

Thanks
#2
The JT580 (I believe that's what they call it) is a great trem. Should stay in tune very well and last quite a while.
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It'd be pretty damn close.
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#5
I heard from CJRocker's profile one of his blogs says stay away from the Chrome JT580 but the Black ones are real nice.
#6
what's wrong with the chrome? Why would the colour matter?
#7
the chrome is probaly just lesser quality.
the jackson is no ofr but its alot better then other trems
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my jt 580s both stay in tune, i`ve had no problems w/ them
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#9
if I ever wanted to upgrade to an OFR, would mods be required?
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the chrome is probaly just lesser quality.
the jackson is no ofr but its alot better then other trems


Yeah, he said the chrome was a less quality metal.
#12
Why would a trem without paint be worse than one painted black? Thats the biggest bull**** ive read so far on this forum.
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would it be as good as an OFR?


imo, no. it might be decently made, but it's nowhere near as responsive as an OFR or other quality locking trem.
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Why would a trem without paint be worse than one painted black? Thats the biggest bull**** ive read so far on this forum.


Its supposedly made out of cheaper material boy, its not just the color.

and the new jt580s are great licensed trems.
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Its supposedly made out of cheaper material boy, its not just the color.

and the new jt580s are great licensed trems.

Why? Do you have a reliable source saying that? Or is it another internet tale? A JT580 is a JT580. Period. black or chrome.
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#16
My trem has never given me a problem ever.
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+1 and I have a chrome one
#18
My mate has a black one on his dinky, works fine. He removed it though just cause he hates trems.
#19
^why did he buy a trem dinky then?

Chrome would be exactly the same as black its a coating not the actual material
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#20
The chrome ones only appear on the cheapest models, the black ones on the mid-range models. I can tell you my JS30's trem is holding up very well after about a year of playing, altough the chrome coating seems to scratch very easily.

I've seen a website where some guy with a lot of Jackson experience said that black ones are better quality. I don't find it hard to believe, keeping in mind the black ones don't appear on the cheapest models.
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#21
General consensus on JCF Online is the chrome ones from the Akai-era used lower quality materials. The current ones are used on the lower end models and don't have the best rep, while the black ones on the higher end models were thought to have received stronger base plates. I've played more of the chrome ones with trems that seem to be slowly failing than the black ones, which have the hardened base plate. I have no clue about the few black ones Akai-era guitars used. You also see more of the older ones with the chrome units on ebay, which is interesting.

In other words, if you're going to put it through 80s abuse, expect around 3 years. On a black one, I would think around 5-7+, which is the rough life span of the old JT580s (though mine lasted 15!). The only one that's going to last a lifetime is something like an OFR or Schaller (or Gotoh for that matter) made of really high quality metals all around.
#22
^ yeah, that sounds about right, from what i've heard (hearsay, as i've only tried them in shops which obviously wouldn't tell you how long they'd last).

unfortunately, when anyone says, "jackson LFRs aren't bad compared to some of the cheapo LFRs", that instantly translates, through UG's retarded version of chinese whispers, to "as good as an OFR". which is daft.

cheapo LFRs can wear out in a matter of months. obviously if the jackson one lasts for several years, that's "better". but it's still not as good as "really good".

and how long they hold tune isn't the only measure of a good trem- how responsive they are, and how easy it is to do trem tricks, is another major factor. The ones i've tried in shops haven't felt very responsive at all.



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Its supposedly made out of cheaper material boy, its not just the color.


yeah, that's what i'd have thought.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#23
So far the Floyd on my Dinky has lived up to standards, it doesn't go out of tune after alot of trem abuse, I've had it for about 9 months. Definately happy with it, and I've heard it's a lot better than other LFR's from other companies. Not sure how long it'll last though, but I'm guessing you could always swap it out for an OFR after a while, if you feel the need to.
#24
I was at the guitar shop by my house and they carry about 9 Jacksons. The chrome trems are designed differently than the black ones.
#25
Quote by mxh
I am looking at a jackson dinky and I'm a little worried about the LFR they have.
Does anyone have some experience with them? What are the pros and cons about them and how do they compare to the OFR?

Thanks

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