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#1
just curious why there arent many black guitars on the market...does the paint affect the sound?..or do most ppl just prefer natural
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#4
I don't think there's any particular reason really. Maybe black just doesn't look very good on acoustics?
#5
Quote by smb
It's probably racism.

ha...damn...so i guess me only liking black acoustics makes me a racist too
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#6
what the hell I see black guitars all the time. Black Fenders, Gibsons, Ibanez, Schecter, etc... they all have black ones
#7
black is sorta a goth color (no offense) and you don't see people like Jack Johnson playing goth metal. accually, there's no reason for no black guitars

EDIT: actually i do see alot of black guitars
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#8
we dont take kindly t'them blacks round these parts 'ya hear?


plus, i see alot of black guitars..
#9
Quote by dutch5367
what the hell I see black guitars all the time. Black Fenders, Gibsons, Ibanez, Schecter, etc... they all have black ones



note this is in Acoustic & Classical Guitar
#10
Quote by dutch5367
what the hell I see black guitars all the time. Black Fenders, Gibsons, Ibanez, Schecter, etc... they all have black ones

Look at the section.
Its the acoustics and Classical guitars section.

Ibanez offers quite a few black topped acoustics.
#11
I had to do a double-take when I saw the title. I lul'd

There's a ton of black acoustics out there, but evidently people who buy acoustics prefer natural finishes. The market determines the product.
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#12
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It's probably racism.



Kind of the opposite of racism...


And black guitars are awesome! All shiny and stuff...Both of mine are black
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#13
i gotta black acoustic and i love it =], its just not really popular color..i guess not "classical" enough
#14
Quote by twinturboaudi
just curious why there arent many black guitars on the market...does the paint affect the sound?..or do most ppl just prefer natural

I belive its to be more "Wooden" feeling.
The natural finish brings out the wood and the steriotypical look of what an acoustic should be.
Much lke you dont see many BC Rich guitars with an acoustic look due to them being "METAL" ( yet unjustfully cheeply made )
#16
the only blak guitar ive seen that r aousticeare made by dean, ML aoutice, V aoustic, and te dreanaught acoustic, an any other black guitar ive seen s usually got a burst in the center, and i think the reason is is because black (shear black mind you dont take a racist feel to this) conveys a feeling of despair and sadness, people wear black for mourne and sometimes when they feel alone and seeing as most acoutic guitar palying has a more upbeat (comparitivally if it metal beause it sounds just a wee bit more up beat than the song) its only natural that most acoustic guitars dont come in darker olors becase they dont make people feel happy to see a dark color, but thats just based off of olor terminology, maybe guitar bulders are just not into black guitars
#17
o man sorry for the mistakes my keyboard is wireless and i think the batterie are dying in it
#18
it has nothin to do with sound and there are alot of black guitars on the market. it is true that rockers wear alot of black and like a black guitar is to much, and alos they show fingerprints alot better than other colors
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#19
I've owned 2 black electric guitars before, and we have a black acoustic floating around the house, but for the record I DO prefer natural finishes on both acoustics and electrics.
#20
paint does affect the tone dramatically. That's why most high end acoustic guitars (and by high end i mean $5000+) are all french polished-- because it affects the bare wood tone the least since it's such a fragile cover that's pretty much there just for slight environmental cover.
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#21
in the 1800's who painted their instruments black? not many. all natural colour is just how it was meant to be. a wooden instrument should look like it's made of wood.
#22
Quote by captivate
in the 1800's who painted their instruments black? not many. all natural colour is just how it was meant to be. a wooden instrument should look like it's made of wood.



lol...i dont think that's a good argument though...the words "not many" arent even quantifiable. in the 1800's, although there are songs written for guitar already, the guitar was considered a JOKE instrument, about on par with a harmonica and a jaw harp. It wasnt until segovia came along that guitars became popular. And as far as wooden instruments, even electric guitars have wood (dont say anything about electrics with synthetic bodies because they still have wood fretboards).
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#23
speaking of synthetics would a synthetic fretboard work like 5h!t ?
#24
Quote by F8iscruel
speaking of synthetics would a synthetic fretboard work like 5h!t ?


Never tried. Go find one and try it out; dont accept anyone's answer otherwise. I'm betting it would be useful, like for one, it wouldnt jut out and break your bindings if it got too humid. :shrugs:
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#25
Quote by thepagesaretorn
Never tried. Go find one and try it out; dont accept anyone's answer otherwise. I'm betting it would be useful, like for one, it wouldnt jut out and break your bindings if it got too humid. :shrugs:

Also, there are many synthetics that are far more durable than rosewood or ebony. I think durability is a good point. An all-synthetic guitar is something I've been considering for some time, but the size to volume factor is a concern. It'd be mostly for travel and wandering.
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#26
Quote by Chad48309
Also, there are many synthetics that are far more durable than rosewood or ebony. I think durability is a good point. An all-synthetic guitar is something I've been considering for some time, but the size to volume factor is a concern. It'd be mostly for travel and wandering.


Personally, I've tried some synthetic guitars (both acoustic, like that martin graphite one, and electric, like that JEM that came out recently) and personally i find them lacking in the tone that i want. I would never say that theyre inferior though, because tone's opinion-based, but i would never give up my guitars for a synthetic-based guitar. :shrugs:
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#27
First acoustic i ever played was a Black Epiphone. once you go black you never go...... uhh never mind i bought a natural top for my first acoustic i like the look better.
#28
Quote by F8iscruel
speaking of synthetics would a synthetic fretboard work like 5h!t ?


no, it doesnt. Martin 16 series are made of Micarta, a common household countertop material. i think it actually feels better than wood, not to mention... it lasts quite a bit longer than a wooden fretboard anyways.
#29
yah ive only seen synthetics never played them, but ive never really been sure on them because i thought they woulget ba sound, but i think the synthetic fret board woulnt be a bad idea since it wouldnt warp or something along thos lines, but i think it would be to slick and beyond to fast likew you slide your finger up or downthe fretboard you miss the fret they go for
#30
Quote by F8iscruel
yah ive only seen synthetics never played them, but ive never really been sure on them because i thought they woulget ba sound, but i think the synthetic fret board woulnt be a bad idea since it wouldnt warp or something along thos lines, but i think it would be to slick and beyond to fast likew you slide your finger up or downthe fretboard you miss the fret they go for


lol what?
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#31
too all those who said theres a ton of black guitars.....compare this number to the number of natural ones....theres way way more natural finishes compared to black ones...and not to be an ass but i was more talking about higher end guitars...not ibanez, schecter....
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#32
Quote by thepagesaretorn
lol...i dont think that's a good argument though...the words "not many" arent even quantifiable. in the 1800's, although there are songs written for guitar already, the guitar was considered a JOKE instrument, about on par with a harmonica and a jaw harp. It wasnt until segovia came along that guitars became popular. And as far as wooden instruments, even electric guitars have wood (dont say anything about electrics with synthetic bodies because they still have wood fretboards).


my point was that instruments didnt used to be painted with the exception of a little varnish here and there. instruments wouldnt be painted solid colours such as black. the painting of whole instruments is quite a recent idea if you really think about it. naturally, many people still enjoy the colour of wood because they are purists.
#33
Quote by captivate
my point was that instruments didnt used to be painted with the exception of a little varnish here and there. instruments wouldnt be painted solid colours such as black. the painting of whole instruments is quite a recent idea if you really think about it. naturally, many people still enjoy the colour of wood because they are purists.

I'm practically a luddite when it comes to guitars, but I admit that synthetic acoustics have their place. Guitars with a heap of paint on them . . . that's just a waste, to me.

Paint affects tone. Bottom line.
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#34
Quote by captivate
my point was that instruments didnt used to be painted with the exception of a little varnish here and there. instruments wouldnt be painted solid colours such as black. the painting of whole instruments is quite a recent idea if you really think about it. naturally, many people still enjoy the colour of wood because they are purists.



how are people who enjoy finished wood purists?


...and how is wood even a color?
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#35
I much rather prefer the natural look but those carbon fiber guitars I must admit look pretty bad ass.
#37
So many stupid answers...

It's just personal preference. Most acoustic players prefer the natural look of a wood stain guitar than painted. Just about every brand makes painted acoustics, they're just not as popular because they're not popular among the players.
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#38
Quote by captivate
naturally, many people still enjoy the colour of wood because they are purists.


Quote by thepagesaretorn
how are people who enjoy finished wood purists?


...and how is wood even a color?


You have misread my post once again.

My wording implies that many people who are purists enjoy the colour of wood, not that people who enjoy the natural finish of wood are purists. There is a distinct difference in what I said and what you interpreted it to be.

Also, I said people enjoy the "colour of wood". This does not mean that wood is a colour. It means the colour(visual perceptual property corresponding in humans to the categories called red, yellow, blue, black, etc.) of wood... Because you know... wood has a colour.

Quote by Chad48309
I'm practically a luddite when it comes to guitars, but I admit that synthetic acoustics have their place. Guitars with a heap of paint on them . . . that's just a waste, to me.

Paint affects tone. Bottom line.


I think I'm in the same boat as you. I actually enjoy the sound of a carbon fibre guitar every once in a while.
#39
Quote by captivate
You have misread my post once again.

My wording implies that many people who are purists enjoy the colour of wood, not that people who enjoy the natural finish of wood are purists. There is a distinct difference in what I said and what you interpreted it to be.

Also, I said people enjoy the "colour of wood". This does not mean that wood is a colour. It means the colour(visual perceptual property corresponding in humans to the categories called red, yellow, blue, black, etc.) of wood... Because you know... wood has a colour.


I think I'm in the same boat as you. I actually enjoy the sound of a carbon fibre guitar every once in a while.

yah its brown right, lol
#40
@ thread title.


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Well, the only downsides I see with black (or any dark and/or glossy finish) is that:

a) fingerprints, etc. show up easily
b) reflect light (maybe a bad thing on stage?)
c)collect dust. I have no idea why, but my Artcore gathers more dust and crap on it between the pickups that within a day of dusting it off, it's back as it was before I cleaned it.
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