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Pro-choice
426 79%
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112 21%
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#1
hey,

im trying to keep track on the US primarys and election. I can't believe that abortion is such a major issue, according to a poll 70% of americans think that its an important issue in the race.

wow, i live in sweden and just don't think its a big deal. Its a very normal and natural part of life here. I know loads of girls who've had abortions and loads that use the morning-after-pill. part of life...we don't really think of it like we're killing babies.

so what do people like McCain want? to ban abortions completely? just kind of interested to know.
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#3
I know people who feel strongly either way on this issue, but I don't really care.

People will argue regardless
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wow, i live in sweden and just don't think its a big deal. Its a very normal and natural part of life here. I know loads of girls who've had abortions and loads that use the morning-after-pill. part of life...we don't really think of it like we're killing babies.


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#5
its all situational
cos its deffinetly killing a human no matter which way you look at it

but if the child was a product of a rape on a young girl who would grow up to be disabled? thats surely the most loving thing to do
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hey,

im trying to keep track on the US primarys and election. I can't believe that abortion is such a major issue, according to a poll 70% of americans think that its an important issue in the race.

wow, i live in sweden and just don't think its a big deal. Its a very normal and natural part of life here. I know loads of girls who've had abortions and loads that use the morning-after-pill. part of life...we don't really think of it like we're killing babies.

so what do people like McCain want? to ban abortions completely? just kind of interested to know.


Sounds like Swedish girls are nothing but sluts.
#7
Man! it is not McCainish to say ABORTION IS A CRIME!
It is not conservative either!(i am an anarcho-socialist and an atheist)
Not wearing a condomn is as stupid for your health as it is for the baby that's probably gonna come out! Abortion is the excuse for people being too careless and putting their health into danger!
The featus is alive...
It is not just like some organ inside yer stomach, like yer guts or something:
IT IS A NEW LIFE!!!!
And i don't get it, which one is for voting against abortions?
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#8
it is a controversial issue, but making abortion illegal is a stupid, ill-though out thing to do
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#9
Pro choice, it's up to the woman.

Funny I should see this, the keyboardist from my band's girlfriend went in to have an abortion.

I got a funny text from him this morning (bear in mind, this guy is absent minded, not an arsehole)

It said:

"Things not to say to your girlfriend when she's going into an abortion clinic:

1. Quote Jay and Silent Bob

2. Say in a relaxed manner, "I'm going to get Macca's (McDonalds)"

3. (And this is the most important) "Have fun."

This guy just doesn't think about what he says before he says it.


Pro-choice FTW.
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Just like locking your daughter in your basement for 27 years and fathering her children is just raising a family?


he was austrian

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#11
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Just like locking your daughter in your basement for 27 years and fathering her children is just raising a family?

Wrong country.
Besides, your point was what?

So say a girl is raped, becomes pregnant from it, she should keep it as a permanent reminder?
Been there with a very close friend of mine, abortions are necessary.
#12
just so i'd know...
17 pro-choise, 1 pro-life

are we all europian here?
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Funny I should see this, the keyboardist from my band's girlfriend went in to have an abortion.


the keyboardist that came out of your bands girlfriend went to have an abortion?

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Just like locking your daughter in your basement for 27 years and fathering her children is just raising a family?


hahahahahahah!!!!

thats hilarious! (really, not being sarcastic)

that was in germany though mate
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And i don't get it, which one is for voting against abortions?


pro-choice.

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the keyboardist that came out of your bands girlfriend went to have an abortion?

D:


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hahahahahahah!!!!

thats hilarious! (really, not being sarcastic)

that was in germany though mate


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#20
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its all situational
cos its definitely killing a human no matter which way you look at it

but if the child was a product of a rape on a young girl who would grow up to be disabled? thats surely the most loving thing to do


No...no it isn't.
That's why there's a rule governing the amount of weeks you can be pregnant and still have an abortion. The cells couldn't survive outside the womb before that point. Potential life does not = a life. Personally I don't think it's morally reprehensible at all for a woman to make the choice to have one, as long as its under the right circumstances.
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Candidates on either side will pay lip service to the issue without making any type of commitment. Lots of rhetoric they can twist any way they want to.
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#23
Then WHY< WHY should a woman getF*CKED without any condomns or pills?
It is completely irresponsible
Well, except for the raping and stuff...
but then again, there is always the Next-day-pill..
Unless someone rapes her and then keeps her locked inside or rapes her everyday or smth
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#24
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Just like locking your daughter in your basement for 27 years and fathering her children is just raising a family?

That dude was Austrian...just like the governer of my fair state of California!

And abortion is an issue in the US because religious leaders here feel they should change our country to reflect what they feel is a moral state. in 1919 religous leaders marched on Washington and got all alcohol banned in the United States. This lead to the worst crime spree in our nation's history because people had to buy there booze from bootleggers and organized crime(ie the maffia). Thats how Al Capone got the majority of his money and therefore the majority of his power.

Many Christians here want the nation to reflect their beliefs, to hell with decenters.

If you really want to understand this situation my Sweedish firend read about Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. See how long you could read before you get outraged.
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#25
Pro-life except in certain situations such as rape. I don't think they should make it illegal but it should def. be regulated somehow. I don't think a girl should be able to have an abortion just because her and her bf were too horny and dumb to not wear a condom.
#26
i think people should do whatever the **** they want to (except harm others) and other people should not be up all in everyones grill if they weren't invited to the bbq.
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#28
Its an interesting issue, in Australia people are sort of half half, but it certainly isn't normal and natural (but that guy who compared it to the German guy is a tool.)

To be honest I haven't yet heard a really compelling Pro-choice argument, no amount of stating "I'm a woman, its my right" actually gives you the right to kill something. And people who claim that it should be legalized because backyard abortions are horrible are a bit thick. And I don't believe that people destined for a disability or in poor families should be aborted either, can you really go to a child brought up in a poor family and say "It would have been better if you were aborted?" Thats a bit too close to eugenics for me.

But on the other hand, it may not be a life after all, it might be so undeveloped that its just biomass. But I don't think so and I dont think anyone has the right to take that risk.

its a bit crazy that this is a major factor in the next US election, taking an anti-world poverty stance, or anti-war would save way more lives than anti abortion MIGHT.

Lets not get too heated though, getting pissed off won't help the discussion, just discredit your view.
#29
im pro-choice, but i do think 24 weeks (6 months) is a bit high
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#30
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Then WHY< WHY should a woman getF*CKED without any condomns or pills?
It is completely irresponsible
Well, except for the raping and stuff...
but then again, there is always the Next-day-pill..
Unless someone rapes her and then keeps her locked inside or rapes her everyday or smth


Birth control isn't always effective. Condoms can break and things like alcohol or antibiotics can mess up the Pill. Not all unwanted pregnancies are as a result of carelessness.
#31
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Then WHY< WHY should a woman getF*CKED without any condomns or pills?
It is completely irresponsible
Well, except for the raping and stuff...
but then again, there is always the Next-day-pill..
Unless someone rapes her and then keeps her locked inside or rapes her everyday or smth

Do you know any women that have been raped?
Being a pit monkey I should assume yes.

Seriously speaking, they won't move out of the house for weeks. Ergo, next day pill void.
But on the other points, yeah, then it is their fault for being stupid/drunk/whatever.
#32
i wasnt saying that i was responsible for inseminating all the people that got abortions, that included friends or friends of friends. and when i said "we" i wasn't necessarily referring to me, but swedes in general.

and as for irresponsible or whatever and an excuse to not be careful, i always use other protection anyway, but they break sometimes...
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#34
America worries too much about the abortion issue and not enough about what really matters. Abortion is not a big deal. People go out of the way to say "You can't have an abortion, that's taking away a human life!", yet they don't mind our country going out everyday and taking away life from the middle east, or even in our own backyard.

Edit: On another topic, everyone keeps saying it's the couple's fault for not wearing a condom or being on birth control. Neither of the two are 100% effective, even when combined. A pregnancy can happen when you least expect it.

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America worries too much about the abortion issue and not enough about what really matters. Abortion is not a big deal. People go out of the way to say "You can't have an abortion, that's taking away a human life!", yet they don't mind our country going out everyday and taking away life from the middle east, or even in our own backyard.

You can't compare killing innocent babies to acts of war. There are simply times when violence is necessary.
#36
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hahahahahahah!!!!

thats hilarious! (really, not being sarcastic)

that was in germany though mate


and that was in Austria mate
#37
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You can't compare killing innocent babies to acts of war. There are simply times when violence is necessary.


You consider what America is doing in the Middle East necessary?

Taking a life is taking a life, there are no inequalities, otherwise the whole argument is void.

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#38
Pro-choice for the win. The last thng we need is the Catholic Church running the government, which is good as in the UK we've just voted that it stays at 24 weeks. Science - 1 Epic fail Catholics - -78965434271
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#39
Pro-choice.

Though abortion may not be exactly moral, the child who wasn't aborted would be an unwanted child... which means that he/she would not be treated well (could cause psychological damage).

Not to mention, in the case of teenage pregnancy, there is a higher chance of defects/miscarriages in the child, and death due to pregnancy related complications in the mother.
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When talking about abortion, you have to ask yourself the question: "When is a cake mix a cake?"

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