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Obviously, every great (by great I mean most powerful, richest, most influential, biggest army, etc.) civilization has fallen and gave way to the next. I'm no history buff so I could use some help here.
What are some of the great civilizations in history and why did they fall?

I assume this info would be useful in hypothesizing when the US will fall. I could be wrong though.

When will America fall and why? Also, fall could mean anything; another great depression, being taken over etc. Just tell me what you think.

By the way, this kind of reminds me of the movie Red Dawn. Anyone a fan?

I'm apologizing in advance for my post being scatter-brained and possibly rambling.
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#4
Well I believe they're already falling. The dollar is kind of crashing and all.

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#5
it kinda already has began to fall look at the economy lately. that just might be the begining of the end right there.
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#6
The usa will 'fall' as soon as we officially merge our borders and currency with canada and mexico, forming the North American Union. Ever seen the trans-texas corridor?
#7
When the Federal Reserve Bank finally gains full control of America and then ushers in it's one world nation policies. It's already begun and it's been going on for a long time.
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#8
USA is just a hype, wait five years and you won't hear anyone talk about it anymore.
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USA is just a hype, wait five years and you won't hear anyone talk about it anymore.


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#12
America won't fall soon,all this crysis talks are just acover while russia,USA, and other oil rich countries manipulate world's oil stocks
#13
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When the Federal Reserve Bank final gains full control of America and then ushers in it's one world nation policies. It's already begun and it's been going on for a long time.


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it won't.

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Its pretty much true that every great nation eventually falls from the top. I'm guessing that in the USA's case it will be an economic decline. But to be fair its had a good 100 year run.
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#19
I heard that all democracies have only lasted for about 300 years. Thats ahundred years left for US

for other contries that failed. There was the Roman Empire and the greek empire i think
#20
A falling dollar is hardly barbarians at the gates.

I think the US will truly fall when some crackpot commie/fundamentalist theist gets hold of nukes.

In terms of being the world's Economic superpower, I'd give china 15 years to catch up, militarily, 30.


edit: British empire fell, Japanese empire fell, Spanish, French, Dutch, and Portugese empires fell, the Third Reich fell.
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I will be glad when china passes us up in everything, take some of the attention off us. Maybe everybody will hate china then instead of us.
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it won't.

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I'd like to agree with you but hasn't every other "great civilization"?

For example, Rome
#23
The US is heading into a recession because they (virtually) don't have any natural resources or a manufacturing industry. Their major car manufacturers (traditionally a somewhat significant proportion of GDP) have been posting massive profit downturns of late and these are ultimately unsustainable. America's finance and retail sectors are where it's at at the moment, but as the country heads into recession, household spending will fall crashing the retail sector, and the country will withdraw from it's #1 status. Unless the president goes crazy and decides to take over the Middle East for oil interests..... oh wait...
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for other contries that failed. There was the Roman Empire and the greek empire i think


Persians
Greeks
Romans
Mongols
India
China
Britain
Spain
Holland
France

etc etc

Plenty of nations have dominated the world
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#25
well England are gonna dominate the earth like we did before we got all soft and gave loads of people there own countries back

America will start a war with us due to our sexy nature

and obviously we will win because we have much better army

and we shall rule!!

YAY ENGLAND

also the world will be called England
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Persians
Greeks
Romans
Mongols
India
China
Britain
Spain
Holland
France

etc etc

Plenty of nations have dominated the world


Wtf? lol I never knew that
#27
Tomorrow. Yup. Gutted for you Americans.
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#28
I've been talking 'bout this,
if you look at it then every great civilisation as fallen to an attacking minority.
eg. Romans=goths
eg. Middle eastern
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In terms of being the world's Economic superpower, I'd give china 15 years to catch up, militarily, 30.


I'd say its already surpassed the USA, it might not have the most technologically advanced army but in terms of sheer numbers the USA wouldn't stand a chance
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Wtf? lol I never knew that


The Dutch were a major trading and imperial power well into the 1700's they were pretty damn powerful, then they discovered weed and they generally decided to chill
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It's strange that the USA has become the dominant world power, because most of the previous mega-powers have been based around empires, like the romans, mongolians, persians, british etc, whereas the US is pretty much a centralized nation (with the exception of hawaii and alaska). The US is still relatively young, so i give it a couple of hundred years yet, although when it does fall it'll take the rest of the world's economy with it.
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well England are gonna dominate the earth like we did before we got all soft and gave loads of people there own countries back

America will start a war with us due to our sexy nature

and obviously we will win because we have much better army

and we shall rule!!

YAY ENGLAND

also the world will be called England


Ha! Come up here and say that
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The Dutch were a major trading and imperial power well into the 1700's they were pretty damn powerful, then they discovered weed and they generally decided to chill


These Hollandeese er Hollish, Hollandarian......... crap

These people from Holland sound cool.
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Wtf? lol I never knew that


Me neither.. but.. probably they did..

I think by Spain..
It`s sad but true.
#37
we'll go to war with england and were bringin our dentists with us lol
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#38
About 7 years or so, itll be by china, north korea and russia(they are currently preparing for war). I can't wait man, its going to be great!!!
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#39
Silly People...

Everyone KNOWS the Earths gonna collapse on itself tomorrow...

IMO America'll fall when it's economy and all other attributes do...
BUT on the other hand - no one can predict the demise of a nation...
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