#1
Hi there, I've been writing songs for a little while and recording them onto my pc. Does anyone know a good programme in which I can use to design a drum pattern into my songs?
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2008 - Feeder
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#3
My friend uses Drumagog or something. Its a sampling program, where you can design drum beats/fills using actual sounds of your (or other people's) kit. I'm pretty sure it has some samples/sounds of its own too.

I remember him saying it costs about $700 or something though. (Not that he bought it or anything)
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#4
The thing is, I can't actually play drums and don't know anyone who can play drums. I'm also a cheap skate so anything free or cheap would be nice...
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2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#5
well you dont have to buy it, if you happen to "stumble across it" somewhere over the net...
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Line 6 Variax 600
Epiphone G-310
Ibanez RG350EX
81' Ibanez Blazer Bass

Line 6 Spider III 75
Line 6 POD X3 Live
Fender ToneMaster Mini
Boss DD-2 Delay
Boss CE-2 Chorus


My Band
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Band UG Profile
#6
fruity loops (if you get some good sound fonts or a vst plugin such as EZ drummer: drum kit from hell)
or acoustica beatcraft.

Im saving to get DFH just now, but i have some songs done with FL and some with acoustica on my pro
if you want, listen to some of them and tell me what sound you like and ill let you know what it is
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#7
Does anyone use cubase? I used it for my C/W for music at GCSE and that seemed pretty easy. Any recommend it as i'm thinking of cracking it....
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#10
Quote by deluxe_man
Hi there, I've been writing songs for a little while and recording them onto my pc. Does anyone know a good programme in which I can use to design a drum pattern into my songs?
You could try to use the midi drums from guitar-pro. Guitar pro 4 is a pretty small program
#11
okay You can get this for Free.lol
Just download Magix demo.

There's an audio temp folder for the demo.
There's a demo song. You can mess with tracks and stuff like that.
Only what's in the temp folder.

Here's a trick
What you do...is go to the Syn folder. Copy all of the drum beats .wav and midi
files and paste it in the audio temp folder.

You can alter the midi patterns too
Bascailly write your own druming.
You can alter the tempo too
#14
Quote by Ordinary
okay You can get this for Free.lol
Just download Magix demo.

There's an audio temp folder for the demo.
There's a demo song. You can mess with tracks and stuff like that.
Only what's in the temp folder.

Here's a trick
What you do...is go to the Syn folder. Copy all of the drum beats .wav and midi
files and paste it in the audio temp folder.

You can alter the midi patterns too
Bascailly write your own druming.
You can alter the tempo too



Sounds a bit complex but I might give it a go. How does everyone do their recording, straight into mic or by other means?
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#15
i use drumkit from hell. you can listen to "the day god was born" on my profile to hear how it sounds in action. i've tried a lot of drum programs and the DFH/ezdrummer is the best sound i've heard so far. i've heard really good things about drumagog too.
#16
i believe meshuggah actually used DFH for one of their albums
and i think somebody else did too...
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#17
Quote by z4twenny
i use drumkit from hell. you can listen to "the day god was born" on my profile to hear how it sounds in action. i've tried a lot of drum programs and the DFH/ezdrummer is the best sound i've heard so far. i've heard really good things about drumagog too.



Is "drums from hell" an add-on for a program or a separate program? Some linkage would be much appreciated...
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#18
It's easy..I just done pasting some rock drum beats from the basic version
into the deluxe version.lol

There's a media import folder...it's empty. So, i just copy all the druming
patterns in there to keep the druming seperated from everything else.lol

The sound files are .OGG type files. You'll also see it as .wav files.
They'll have names in from of them Drum verse 1 ...etc

Just look in the My Audio vedio folder.
Then there's sub folders in it.

If you look in the syn folder...there's sub folders in there.
Just copy all the veriouse beat files out of it and put in the Media import folder.

It think it might also be able to just read it from anywhere...I havn't try it
like that yet.

After you select it to go on the mixer board...just put the mouse over
the files that's on the mixer, Right click then a beat sequence menu will
come up.

The deluxe version loaded into just the C drive...you'll see the folder.
The basic version loaded into the Programfile folder.

Whatever you do...don't go into the Window's folder if you're familar.

I do it all the time on Flight sims..making new Models or sceneries

I'm not sure what type of file Audacity use...if it's just .wav Boo ya.lol

I have an external Digaital recoder. so i just record directly into my recoder.
I guess i can just transfer the .wav files.

I'm pretty sure you can record into magix too.
#19
Quote by Ordinary
It's easy..I just done pasting some rock drum beats from the basic version
into the deluxe version.lol

There's a media import folder...it's empty. So, i just copy all the druming
patterns in there to keep the druming seperated from everything else.lol

The sound files are .OGG type files. You'll also see it as .wav files.
They'll have names in from of them Drum verse 1 ...etc

Just look in the My Audio vedio folder.
Then there's sub folders in it.

If you look in the syn folder...there's sub folders in there.
Just copy all the veriouse beat files out of it and put in the Media import folder.

It think it might also be able to just read it from anywhere...I havn't try it
like that yet.

After you select it to go on the mixer board...just put the mouse over
the files that's on the mixer, Right click then a beat sequence menu will
come up.

The deluxe version loaded into just the C drive...you'll see the folder.
The basic version loaded into the Programfile folder.

Whatever you do...don't go into the Window's folder if you're familar.

I do it all the time on Flight sims..making new Models or sceneries

I'm not sure what type of file Audacity use...if it's just .wav Boo ya.lol

I have an external Digaital recoder. so i just record directly into my recoder.
I guess i can just transfer the .wav files.

I'm pretty sure you can record into magix too.



Ah right, thats a bit easier to understand. I might try that...
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#20
Quote by deluxe_man
Is "drums from hell" an add-on for a program or a separate program? Some linkage would be much appreciated...


ezdrummer is the base program. you "get" ezdrummer and install it, it gives you the interface and the base drumkit. then you install drumkit from hell to get the extra drum sounds

actually my song "the day god was born" was actually done with ezdrummer and a little eq'ing to get it to sound right. i didn't have the drumkit from hell at the time that was recorded (i got DFH a week later or so)
#21
When using these programs, will I have to re-record my guitar parts, or can I just export the drum audio and insert it into audacity?
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#22
^ it depends on how you have your guitar parts recorded. i prefer to write the drums first then put the guitar over it. hypothetically you can record the guitar part and insert the drums over it but i find that a lot harder. might want to take further questions to riffs and recordings, most of the people in there are pretty good with stuff like this (and thats what that forum is really for)
#23
ok cheers mate. Gonna try a few of these programs out, possibly DFH and maybe explore Cubase as i've got previous experience with it...
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#24
I just tried retrieving the sound files from a folder sitting on desk top.
It works.

It can read .OGG, .wave, mp3 types files.....Get a file converter.lol
So bascailly if you know someone or any of the other drum software
that use these types of files, you can use magix to run it.

Surf the web for drum loops. I found tons already

What's cool about it ...you can change the bpm, cut it, loop it, stretch it.
mess with the FX..etc

if you're cheap ...there you go... a free drum machine, mixer, and recorder

i think that's why the demo version is free becuase it dosn't have
all the premade loops for other instruments.
but we're going to make our own arn't we.

I like it better than my SR-16 drum machine. I get visual.lol
Last edited by Ordinary at May 22, 2008,
#25
Quote by MV4824
THIS

DFH is definetly better, but acoustica is a very good starting point!
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#26
Anyone know what the full name of the "magix" program is called? I'm having a bit of trouble trying to find it...
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six
#27
It's Magix music maker.....Just google.

Here's an easier way or better.
Just use Audacity...and Import the drum loops files.
Magix is just a little more fancy but audacity dose pretty much the samething.

I just got done doing it.
You can import .OGG file or .wave files into Audacity.
Just select import files.
You can save your work ...becuase Audacity is a FREE Mixer/Recorder

I kind of dump into a bunch of drum loops on the net.lol
Shot me a PM if U wanna know where I got them quickly.
Becuase I'll have to explain to ya how to open .rar files
These drum loops are sorted too.


There's drum loops everywhere on the web...just google drum loops
Last edited by Ordinary at May 23, 2008,
#28
Quote by MV4824
I've only use beatcraft twice.. it was sweet. I actually write my songs and then get on my keyboard and make my own drum beats, I find it to be more original that way

you make your own in acoustica though....
lol
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#29
I once made a drum beat in audacity by cutting and pasting bits from the intro to walk this way by aerosmith. It worked because of the isolated drums. The sounds you can get are "open hat and kick," "closed hat," "closed hat and kick" and "closed hat and snare," and I'm sure you could find other sounds from other songs, like a crash or ride, but what I got from walk this way was enough for me.
#30
That's not a bad idea about importing into audacity might give that a go, but i'm gonna try the magix copying idea...
Gigs:
2006 - Motorhead
2008 - Feeder
2009 - Sonisphere
2010 - Feeder
2011 - Yes
2011 - Zappa plays Zappa
2012 - Mastodon, Chimaira, Adrenaline Mob, Young Guns, Alestorm, Motorhead/Anthrax, Dying Fetus, You Me At Six