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I thought about this a lot today. Is guitar playing heredity or a lot of hours of practice and theory? Could my little sister grow up to be the next Van Halen if she put her mind to it everyday for 6 hours? Ive always wondered this...
#3
Not at all, but it helps to have it in your family. The lead singer/guitarist in my band is the spitting image of his father, who was the lead singer/guitarist in a band in the 70s. It's scary how similar they are.
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#4
yes, my dads semen is what gives me my guitar playing ability


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#5
why would you think it's hereditary?
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It would in a way, some people are more natural at playing guitar.
But any can play it.
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you might have a genetic advantage with good left hand dexterity or something but nothing to make you born as good as hendrix
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#9
My dad doesn't play at all, and i consider myself quite a good guitarist. So i guess it isn't really hereditary.
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I thought about this a lot today. Is guitar playing heredity or a lot of hours of practice and theory? Could my little sister grow up to be the next Van Halen if she put her mind to it everyday for 6 hours? Ive always wondered this...

only if she wanted.

its all practice but its our genes that determine what interests us. some people by nature are faster learners than others and may be more inclined to do well with music for what ever reason. but there isnt any "guitar gene" or anything like that. its like sports. everyone can improve in sports but there is genetic potential as well. some people will just do better because of how they are made up genetically. there isnt much you can do about that.
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I was going to suggest you put this question in the pit, but it is too stupid for even that.
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yes anyone can learn to play an instrument but some people are just naturally better musicians.
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yes, my dads semen is what gives me my guitar playing ability


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#14
Lol! I laughed when I read the title, how are guitar skills passed from one genration to another by genes. Dude, it's all about practicing.
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lol you guys missed the point and some of you nailed it. im talkin about like that one guy with the example of sports and the one with the singers dad, it does help to have it in yours genes.
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Oh come on, it was really damn sharp.

And to the TS, not it's not that some are genetically superior (who gets it?) for playing guitar. There is, however, difference in ones musical hearing, right-brain development, problem solving, discipline for learning, and even in some sense: build, IE your hands, arms, bones, joints.

Edit: Hakael made a very good point on the (lack of) musical upbringing, just below me.
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lol you guys missed the point and some of you nailed it. im talkin about like that one guy with the example of sports and the one with the singers dad, it does help to have it in yours genes.


I think you missed the reasoning.

It's not necessarily because of any genes being passed (aside from maybe for singing as your vocal chords are determined by your genes, although you could still have a nice voice and sing like an idiot).

Because a person's parents are musical, the child is generally brought up in the same fashion.

Therefore, they grow up with it, and are more than likely taught by the parents, as well as nurtured by them as they grow.

Guitar playing requires practice, plain and simple. Genes may give you an advantage over others because maybe of how your hands are deveopled or other attributes, but other than that, nothing else. If you still don't practice, you're going to suck regardless if you're fathered by Steve Vai or whomever.

At the same time, just because a person's parents are NOT musical in anyway, doesn't mean their offspring can't be. Again, practicing and simply having the drive to learn and play music is what's needed. I wouldn't say that a child with non-musical parents is hampered in any way, in fact, they may be more inclined to work harder simply because they may be their only support in learning music.
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#19
Neither one of my parents are musical and I picked up saxophone, guitar, and bass quite naturally.
If you are musically inclined, then there is no limit to how far you can go. It just takes time, effort, pain, and pleasure on your part.
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#20
i think it can be hereditary to an extent, however i think just about anyone can learn to be a great guitar player. just like just about anyone can learn to do just about anything.
#21
i play bass clarinet in my high school band. I'm first chair.
the second chair kid plays for an hour a night to beat me.
i practice in class.

and i'm still better then he is.

i was wondering the same question because there are other kids in other sections like this.

genes have a small thing in it i think.
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Genes may play a part in the ability to develop manual dexterity. It all boils down to DDP thoguh:
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I thought about this a lot today. Is guitar playing heredity or a lot of hours of practice and theory? Could my little sister grow up to be the next Van Halen if she put her mind to it everyday for 6 hours? Ive always wondered this...

anyone can learn, many can "play", even fewer are good

long fingers help- i have shorter ones
but if you practice it doesn't matter, you'll be good
#24
Unless one of your family plays guitar well, just give up, it's pretty much all about your genes.
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#25
Some people are naturally musically talented.

But Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Talent is good, but practice is a majority of your ability to play.
#26
Some people are naturally musically talented.

But Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

Talent is good, but practice is a majority of your ability to play.


+1

Also, thinking about genes vs. environment is a false dichotomy. Environment plays a large role in which genes get expressed, so you've got a chicken and egg problem posing the question that way.
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The best guitarists can melt faces right out of the womb. Its all in the genes my brotha.
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ACTUALLY PART OF IT IS HEREDITARY

Pitch accuracy is genetic, and some people just dont have the accuracy to be musicians. Its a known fact. But anybody can play the guitar, but some people have that extra aid to make and improvise better music.
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i think it has more to do with age than genetics. kids learn talents faster than adults so the younger you start, the easier it will be for you to learn
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i think it has more to do with age than genetics. kids learn talents faster than adults so the younger you start, the easier it will be for you to learn


PItch accuracy is actually based on genetics, however our genes can change depending on our environment, so growing on a musical environment, could cause a desired mutation that would lead to perfect pitch.
#31
It's a combination of natural musicality and the upbringing. But then again, I know some kids who have really musical parents but can't match a pitch for their life, but also some kids who are killer musicians with little or no musical upbringing..
#32
It's nurture not nature.

If guitar playing was inheritable you would be supporting the evolutionary theory of Jean-Baptiste Lamark in which the use or disuse of an organ part would determine it's size and whether or not it would be passed on over time.

If a horse stretches his neck out to reach tall plants it doesn't grow an elongated neck and eventually become a giraffe. If a human plays guitar it doesn't produce shredlings.
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It's nurture not nature.

If guitar playing was inheritable you would be supporting the evolutionary theory of Jean-Baptiste Lamark in which the use or disuse of an organ part would determine it's size and whether or not it would be passed on over time.

If a horse stretches his neck out to reach tall plants it doesn't grow an elongated neck and eventually become a giraffe. If a human plays guitar it doesn't produce shredlings.


No. What I mean is perfect pitch is hereditary. Perfect pitch will definatelly affect guitar playing. Technique is not hereditary. But guitar playing is not just about practice but also perfect pitch. Thats why genetics do indeed affect it. Just not directly.
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No. What I mean is perfect pitch is hereditary. Perfect pitch will definatelly affect guitar playing. Technique is not hereditary. But guitar playing is not just about practice but also perfect pitch. Thats why genetics do indeed affect it. Just not directly.

exactly
everyone's hearing and ears are different because of their genes.
It's not like you'll be way off if you aren't in perfect pitch, it's just that you probably won't hear a discernible difference between perfect pitch and one that is slightly off
#35
I'm no genealogist, but I'm pretty sure muscle memory isn't hereditary.
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#36
I think its hereditary to a certain point, at least its based on the environment you grew up in. People who grow up in a musical environment could pick up a guitar more easily than someone who didnt. But in the end it all comes down to practice.
#37
not everyone can learn it, some people just naturally aren't music inclined. i know a few people who would still sound like crap if they had 10 years to play before i heard them next.

generally, if you tend to have good common sense, good coordination, familiarity with another musical instrument, or anything like that you won't have a problem learning guitar.

if you are one of those people who are really bad at everything... from sports to video games.. you might struggle. just evaluate yourself and give it a shot.
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Im guessing a love for music would also help


+100

About the only truth said in this thread so far.

As far as perfect pitch goes, you either have it or you don't. Take it beyond that, if you don't have it you can learn relative pitch which is just important. Perfect pitch may be genetic, but I'm pretty sure steve vai, zakk wylde, joe satriani, John Petrucci, and yngwie picked up guitar by practice.
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#40
There is definitely some kind of 'gift' that makes it easier for some people to make music than others.

However I'm not convinced it's completely hereditary - I have 3 brothers and all of us have a musical talent. However our parents find it much harder to learn and play even simple things - and whilst music has been around in our house it was never a prominent part of our lives until one of us picked up the guitar - so I'm not sure that Nurture has a such a big part to play either. I never knew my maternal family so there could well have been a musical talent there that skipped a generation or two but there certainly isn't any on the paternal side.

As to the technical side of things - whilst that is mainly hours of practice - some people find it much easier and quicker to develop than others, similar to sports I guess.
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