#1
i hear that tube amps are the best amps to go for but the thing is im sorta stupid with guitar gear and im not sure what a tube amp is, but i know that the fenderfrontman 212r is amazing and i want to buy one.

I wish to play alot of rock like guns and roses, AC/Dc, Eric clapton, The rasmus, and other bands that rock, and even some metal like System of a down.

oh ya almost forgot my gear now
Fender frontman 15 watts (sucks major ass)
ibanez Rg2EX1

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distortion pedals and effects pedals
#3
It's just a bigger version of the frontman you have now, which you admitted sucks ass.
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#4
i thought that the bigger version had better effects and sound -.-
i am gonna save up 300 to 400 bucks for a amp
#5
Get a Peavey Classic 30 and a nice OD like a Maxon OD9/808 or a Bad Monkey, if you're on a budget. The OD will be used to boost the gain, which'll probably get you into SOAD gain.
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#6
i have a frontman 25R and it sounds nice

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#8
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god those are expensive -.-
what about a slash tone could u tell me how to get that ?

You'd get that out of a Classic 30 too.


Save up for it, it's worth it in the long run.
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#10
If u want a solid rock amp for the music u wanna play, go save up for a Marshall MG100. I've had 1 for the past 3 years and it blows the doors off of most Fender amps, not to mention that it it a solid state though, but it has a tube emulator so it still sounds pretty sweet. i think i paid bout 500 with taxes back then. so im guessing its a lil bit cheaper now depending where u go
#11
Quote by EpiGuitarBoy
hmm what about a vox valvetronix? ill save 4 it if u really recommend it

Nah, the Vox will be alright for a bit, but it'd be better to get the Classic 30, an amp that'd last you forever, now.

If you got the Vox, you'd only end up getting another amp sooner or later. The Classic 30's great for your style of music, and you can gig with it.
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#13
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If u want a solid rock amp for the music u wanna play, go save up for a Marshall MG100. I've had 1 for the past 3 years and it blows the doors off of most Fender amps, not to mention that it it a solid state though, but it has a tube emulator so it still sounds pretty sweet. i think i paid bout 500 with taxes back then. so im guessing its a lil bit cheaper now depending where u go


youre doing it wrong
Get off this damn forum and play your damn guitar.
#14
Quote by Bigfreeze
If u want a solid rock amp for the music u wanna play, go save up for a Marshall MG100. I've had 1 for the past 3 years and it blows the doors off of most Fender amps, not to mention that it it a solid state though, but it has a tube emulator so it still sounds pretty sweet. i think i paid bout 500 with taxes back then. so im guessing its a lil bit cheaper now depending where u go

GTFO
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#16
MG is not a step up from a FM

not to mention UG in general abhores them

IMO TS is best off with a tube amp
Get off this damn forum and play your damn guitar.
#17
Quote by Bigfreeze
so wuts so wrong bout that?



It's an MG and you said it was good in the same sentence. Everything is wrong.
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#18
a Fm and MG are on the same bottom line of Fender and Marshall and they're both solid state as is
#19
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a Fm and MG are on the same bottom line of Fender and Marshall and they're both solid state as is

You obviously don't understand what solid state means.

Or bottom line.
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#20
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a Fm and MG are on the same bottom line of Fender and Marshall and they're both solid state as is


Which means they're crap.


I'm gunna +1 RHCP freak's suggestion.
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#21
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a Fm and MG are on the same bottom line of Fender and Marshall and they're both solid state as is


so why did you suggest buying one bottom line SS to replace another?
Get off this damn forum and play your damn guitar.
#22
I call troll on BigFreeze. I doubt he is actually doing this as an actual suggestion.
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I call troll on BigFreeze. I doubt he is actually doing this as an actual suggestion.


That's what I think too... But you can never be sure.
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#24
I hope he's just being a troll.
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#25
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i thought that the bigger version had better effects and sound -.-
i am gonna save up 300 to 400 bucks for a amp


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#26
Classic 30 + OD = Tone Heaven for you.

Unless you were to save up for more. Maybe perhaps you should check out some Traynors? If you're looking for a Slash kinda sound, look into the Traynor Blue. Does a really, really good Marshall sound.
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#27
MG's and Fender FM's arent very good. If youre looking at solid states, look into the roland cubes and Vox Valvetronix. Or you can also try to get a tube like others have suggested.
#28
Quote by Nemesis75
MG's and Fender FM's arent very good. If youre looking at solid states, look into the roland cubes and Vox Valvetronix. Or you can also try to get a tube like others have suggested.

Cubes and Valvetronixes wont do Clapton or AC/DC as well as an overdriven tube amp.
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#29
why aren't the MG's or FM's any good?

They sound fine to me, though I will admit the MG's are a bit bassy, even for a marshall, and their construction and quality could be better.

But to me, the FM's sound fine and look well constructed, they aren't bad for what you're paying.

And to answer the TS, I myself am getting a new amp. I am trying to decide between the Fender FM65R, or the Crate FW65. Both are pretty good. the Crate could be built better, though.
#30
Quote by neptune1988
why aren't the MG's or FM's any good?

They sound fine to me, though I will admit the MG's are a bit bassy, even for a marshall, and their construction and quality could be better.

But to me, the FM's sound fine and look well constructed, they aren't bad for what you're paying.

And to answer the TS, I myself am getting a new amp. I am trying to decide between the Fender FM65R, or the Crate FW65. Both are pretty good. the Crate could be built better, though.



SS tone is generally regarded as inferior to that of a valve amp, and judging by this forum, you have to hear to believe. i know i did.
Get off this damn forum and play your damn guitar.
#31
Quote by neptune1988
why aren't the MG's or FM's any good?

They sound fine to me, though I will admit the MG's are a bit bassy, even for a marshall, and their construction and quality could be better.

But to me, the FM's sound fine and look well constructed, they aren't bad for what you're paying.

And to answer the TS, I myself am getting a new amp. I am trying to decide between the Fender FM65R, or the Crate FW65. Both are pretty good. the Crate could be built better, though.

They're both solid state amps, not to mention they're the worst amps Fender and Marshall make.

Get the Peavey Classic, TS. or the Traynor Blue, like someone mentioned.
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#32
I use to own a fender frontman 25r. It was alright for a beginner amp but there was alot left to be desired in terms of distortion. It just doesnt sound that good as well as something like Roland cube for example.
#33
Well if you want to save up $400, you can get a Peavey Valveking 112 for about that much, and that amp will do all of the styles you mentioned, and more. It's the best bang for your buck, and you won't need an OD pedal. I got mine for $250 used, but I doubt you'll find a deal that good, but you can definitely get one used for less than the $430 new price.
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#34
^they're $400 on MF.
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#35
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Well if you want to save up $400, you can get a Peavey Valveking 112 for about that much, and that amp will do all of the styles you mentioned, and more. It's the best bang for your buck, and you won't need an OD pedal. I got mine for $250 used, but I doubt you'll find a deal that good, but you can definitely get one used for less than the $430 new price.



you would actually need an OD for it to get into metal territory. The VK doesnt have enough gain to do high gain metal.