#1
"Anybody else think that most new thrash metal bands are too focused on looking "thrash" instead of sounding good? It also seems like most of their lyrics are about them talking about how they are "thrash", as if it makes them cooler than everyone else."

This is copied from a thread I made at metal archives a while ago.

It seems that little originality is a positive quality in "The New Wave of Thrash". I'd like to hear one band that doesn't sound like they made minor changes to Vio-lence and Testament riffs. And they call them their own.


I thought this was worthy of its own thread, instead of the Thrash Thread.
#2
i JUST ranted about this in the thrash thread bro

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*ahem*

side note, is anyone else getting sick of the new thrash bands singing about stupid shit? like all the songs about thrashing and shows and killing posers and drinking beer, smoking weed, and stuff is starting to bother me. im all for it but the best thrash is about killing people, fantasy-horror ****, social issues, wars, stuff like that. at least to me. songs like Angel of Death or Magic Dragon have much better memorability and brutalness then party-esque thrash songs like Beer Pressure or Metal Forever. (Slayer, Sodom, Municipal Waste and Fueled By Fire, respectively)

i.e.compare

DARK ANGEL- PERISH IN FLAMES
"Your orders are given, the time for destruction is now
They'll give you no reason, you'll be the first so be proud
They've tracked you on radar, the fighters will lead to attack
The terror will freeze you, because you know you might not make it back

Gods of war have gone insane
You've played with fire, you're to blame
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES
Take a stand for what is right
Time is now so make the fight
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES... DIE!!!

You've locked onto to target, the missiles stand ready to launch
Your mind bleeds in terror, destination lines up in path
Your final descent, the bird of prey unleashes it's wrath
You've pulled the trigger, the world goes insane so you laugh

Gods of war have gone insane
You've played with fire, you're to blame
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES
Take a stand for what is right
Time is now so make the fight
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES... DIE!!!

The world burns below you, innocent people now die
You're stricken with remorse, though much is your loss you don't cry
You clench up in anger, for war is stupidity
For mankind it's too late, and you are the last to see

Gods of war have gone insane
You've played with fire, you're to blame
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES
Take a stand for what is right
Time is now so make the fight
PERISH IN FLAMES
PERISH IN FLAMES... DIE!!!"


to

FUELED BY FIRE- THRASH IS BACK

"Denim, leather, thrash is what we are!
Bang your head against the stage
At baloffs command
Thrashing, smashing...posers on the floor!!
We'll leave you on the floor,bruised and sore

Thrash is back!
Thrash is back!
Thrash is back!

Violence, mayhem, the crowd begins to slam!
Circle pitting maniacs, thrashing all around!
Louder, louder the crowd starts to scream!!
Saying thrash is back with their fist in the air

Thrash is back!
Thrash is back!
Thrash is back!

Run on the stage, jump in the crowd
They catch you as you fall from the air
The lights hit your face as you surf the crowd
You see the band on the stage,
Kicked in the head
By a white high top
The mark is left on your face
Turned and tossed by the people below
Until you fall in the hole

The crowd pulls you in to the circle pit
Slamming and banging your head
A thrasher falls, you help him up,
Slamming the posers to death!
Singing along while your knees hit your face,
Not giving a damn who's in your way
Your hearts beating fast as your pitting away
Thrash will never ....die!!!

80's is when thrash was made,
Those were the glory days
Thrash was asleep, but now it's awake
We'll never die, we're here to stay
The glory days are back!
Thrashers unite!! scream with me!!

Thrash is back!
Thrash is back!"


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yeah but when overdone its lame as hell. i was talking with Aladdin from Bonded By Blood via myspace and he was saying how LA is all a divided scene, either you have to be overtly evil themed and over the top (Merciless Death) or the kind of thrash that is all about denim and high tops and such (Fueled By Fire), or you got shit for it.


singing directly about thrash is cool for a few songs (Bonded By Blood the Exodus song, The Toxic Waltz, any of the Trash Till Deaths that Destruction, Tankard and other bands do) but your whole album shouldnt be about how cool your high tops are.
#3
You should check out my band then We all love thrash, but we tried to take a more modern approach to that style.
#4
Indeed, it does seem they take "thrash revival" a little too literally at times, and come across as trying too hard. However, it has to be said that amongst the throwback bands, there are quite a few bands who put a nice refreshing spin on the old formula. After all, if it ain't broke, why fix it? Just tinker with it.
#6
abigail and barbatos sing about metal and they still **** on their peers
i do agree though singing every song about chains spikes and beer gets old

not that i'm much better ;_;
#7
That's why they're the Thrash REVISIONISTS not the Thrash Revival...
O what a disgrace if such a despised and base race, which worships demons, should conquer a people which has the faith of omnipotent God and is made glorious with the name of Christ!

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#8
Most new thrash bands that come out these days just don't have enough aggresion. The image is auxiliary but still looks pretty gay.
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#9
I hate it as well, and its two blatant rip off styles of thrash its either " lets sound like a poppy version of one of the big 4" or lets sound like Testament or Exodus......
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#10
I completely agree, some of these bands are alright, but most of the retrothrash bands are complete sh!t, focused far too much on image and "bringin' back the 80's!!" and not enough on writing good music.

The only retrothrash bands that come to mind atm that I can respect are Evile, Hexen, Bonded By Blood, Hatchet (too bad the production on the new album sucks huge penises), and Violator.

Warbringer, Fueled by Fajitas, Merciless Death, Lich King and the like are all overhyped and can go suck it.
#11
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Fueled by Fajitas

lol. Anybody notice that 90 percent of the members in new thrash bands are not white. There's always one token white guy though.(Merciless Death)
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lol. Anybody notice that 90 percent of the members in new thrash bands are not white. There's always one token white guy though.(Merciless Death)


that is so true!!!
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#14
I think if you're trying really hard to be thrash, you'll be a horrible attempted thrash wannabe band. Go out there, write some metal and lyrics and it will be original. You will get more kudos for being a creative metal band- plus, I think subgenres can be flexible.
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Quote by metal Lover
lol. Anybody notice that 90 percent of the members in new thrash bands are not white. There's always one token white guy though.(Merciless Death)



Is this true? I haven't actually seen many pics of the new wave US thrash bands. Evile have the token black guy on bass though, whom we all love.

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I think if you're trying really hard to be thrash, you'll be a horrible attempted thrash wannabe band. Go out there, write some metal and lyrics and it will be original. You will get more kudos for being a creative metal band- plus, I think subgenres can be flexible.

I would agree with you there. However, the metal community at large seems to have Genre OCD. If you put a slightly different spin on a genre, you will just end up getting a whole new one named for you It's so they can organise their CD collection correctly.
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#16
I really can't stand most bands which have to constantly remind the listener what genre they play. Except Manowar, they can do whatever the **** they want cause they're Manowar.
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#17
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I really can't stand most bands which have to constantly remind the listener what genre they play. Except Manowar, they can do whatever the **** they want cause they're Manowar.


+1
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I really can't stand most bands which have to constantly remind the listener what genre they play. Except Manowar, they can do whatever the **** they want cause they're Manowar.

I don't have a problem with it, as long as the band is good enough to back it up. If a band does it while failing at whatever genre they play it's just obnoxious. You're just ignoring too much good music if you disregard all bands that do this.
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I don't have a problem with it, as long as the band is good enough to back it up. If a band does it while failing at whatever genre they play it's just obnoxious. You're just ignoring too much good music if you disregard all bands that do this.

I don't ignore all bands that do this for the occasional song, but the ones that are like "METALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!" on nearly every single song tend to get annoying quickly.
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#23
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Manowar...............
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I fucking love Manowar. What other band can pull off fucking loin cloths so well?
#24
Municipal Waste are bloody well allowed to sing about thrash and partying, considering their tongues are so far in their cheeks that they're poking out through their ears.
#25
Toxic Holocaust and Municipal Waste are really really lame.......................................that is all.
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#27
just had to let that out.
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#28
Toxic Holocaust yes.

Municipal Waste are ****ing amazing though.

But oh god how I hate Toxic Holocaust.
#29
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just had to let that out.


Oh good. I was about to go on a rant about how anyone who doesn't find Municipal Waste any good needs to see them live, but then I decided I couldn't be arsed
#31
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i JUST ranted about this in the thrash thread bro


I was just about to quote you on that one.

TS, this is what the Thrash Thread is for.
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#32
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Oh good. I was about to go on a rant about how anyone who doesn't find Municipal Waste any good needs to see them live, but then I decided I couldn't be arsed


From what I've heard their live show just reflects what they already represent in their lyrical theme witch is always some dumb **** about partying or how "thrash" they are. I already dislike most thrash as it is save Sodom,Destruction and a few others. All this new thrash stuff really seems to lack the right spirit for that kind of music.
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#33
Quote by tehbensonzorz
wtf i love Toxic Holocaust. what's wrong with them?!?

He looks like the guy from Sum 41

That just isn't metal
#34
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Is this true? I haven't actually seen many pics of the new wave US thrash bands. Evile have the token black guy on bass though, whom we all love.


I would agree with you there. However, the metal community at large seems to have Genre OCD. If you put a slightly different spin on a genre, you will just end up getting a whole new one named for you It's so they can organise their CD collection correctly.


Organised CD collections are what separates men from animals. Everything must be arranged by genre and by artist within genres and by chronology with in artists.
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yea man, who ever doesnt like pantera or think they suck doesnt like metal, end of discussion, they changed the freakin world n made history, so don't be sayin they suck, have respect, same goes for machine head n lamb of god cuz their good too
#36
Gama Bomb are also amazing.

if a bit heavy on the "we're so thrash" side
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#37
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I don't ignore all bands that do this for the occasional song, but the ones that are like "METALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!" on nearly every single song tend to get annoying quickly.

+1, it's still funny as hell for a band like Horna to have a song called "Black Metal Sodomy" .
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Toxic Holocaust and Municipal Waste are really really lame.......................................that is all.





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