#1
So my friend wants to buy a guitar and he asked me if this package is decent. I know the amp sucks hard, but he says he doesnt mind cause the guitar alone costs 200 by itself.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Stop-Dreaming-SE-Special-Pack-With-Squier-SP10-Amp?sku=513287

thats the link, i need UG's opinion before i tell him yes, he's a beginner and says he doesnt want to spend much, and thinks this is decent for a beginner like him.

EDIT: he thinks this is the same guitar http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Standard-Stratocaster-with-Tortoise-Shell-Pickguard?sku=512732

I dont believe it is, and i think this guitar is better than the one in the package.
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Last edited by this&that at May 24, 2008,
#2
dude thats not bad for 200
anyways, its acually ezer to learn on a good guitar becasue on cheap guitars some times the strings dont make the notes when you bend them, and just dont play good....
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#3
i would agree that shelling out a bit more is better. But can any of you suggest anything?
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#4
what about those agile guitars?
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#5
try a dean vendatte and a 5 watt tube amp? should be about 230?
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#7
he plays classic rock mostly, he loves the clapton.

EDIT: I told him about the agiles, but he says a pack would be a lot easier, because for a beginner he wouldnt have to worry about buying separately.
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#8
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dude thats not bad for 200
anyways, its acually ezer to learn on a good guitar becasue on cheap guitars some times the strings dont make the notes when you bend them, and just dont play good....


I discovered through my experience of owning a Squier[and still a proud owner] that the amp won't cut it with distortion, maybe cleans. I would suggest for him to get it, Squiers are great quality and he can always buy a Boss DS-1 for distortion. Just have him play clean songs until he can get a pedal. Make sure he knows what he's doing too...
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#9
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he plays classic rock mostly, he loves the clapton.

EDIT: I told him about the agiles, but he says a pack would be a lot easier, because for a beginner he wouldnt have to worry about buying separately.
Like it's a huge hassle to do that. He'll be fine if he does get the pack, but it'll be better otherwise.

Epi Firebird Studio/Agile or somesuch something + Roland Micro Cube or a small tube combo.
#11
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I suggested this pack to him http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-SG-Special-Electric-Guitar-Players-Pack?sku=518745 the SG are nice and you can play a lot of different styles of music with this guitar. Was I right to suggest this?
Personally, I think he should start on something better. Guitar is more fun to play when it's a good, well-playing guitar, and he'll be more likely to stick with it if he does.
#12
Agile guitar, Blackheart ministack, and lessons.
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#13
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Agile guitar, Blackheart ministack, and lessons.
This is a sound suggestion.
#14
Im a beginner, and I bought a Fender Starcaster, and its an awesome guitar, and has a rich sound when playing on medium volume setting, maybe its because I have a pretty decent amp, but I would definitely reccomend a Fender Starcaster.
#15
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Agile guitar, Blackheart ministack, and lessons.


Sounds good, but I'm not sure if a mini stack is necessary.
#16
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Im a beginner, and I bought a Fender Starcaster, and its an awesome guitar, and has a rich sound when playing on medium volume setting, maybe its because I have a pretty decent amp, but I would definitely reccomend a Fender Starcaster.



The starcaster is pretty meh actually. It's decent for beginners and what they pay for, but there IS much better to find at that price.
#17
it's just $200, we can suggest you better stuff, but he might end thinking guitar is not for him, that package is not the best thing in the world but it would make it for a while, he'll realize if he wants to be a guitarist or not.
#18
Now, I'm not 100% sure but i read about these a long time ago on ug and remember people saying they were actually pretty good.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Laguna-Ultimate-Rock-Rack-Electric-Guitar-Pack-with-Spider-III-15W-Amp?sku=515204

Also, the amp (Line6 spider), though it isn't an amp that is usually recommended around here, is pretty damn good compared to any amps you will get in other value packages.
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#20
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So my friend wants to buy a guitar and he asked me if this package is decent. I know the amp sucks hard, but he says he doesnt mind cause the guitar alone costs 200 by itself.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Stop-Dreaming-SE-Special-Pack-With-Squier-SP10-Amp?sku=513287

thats the link, i need UG's opinion before i tell him yes, he's a beginner and says he doesnt want to spend much, and thinks this is decent for a beginner like him.

EDIT: he thinks this is the same guitar http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-Standard-Stratocaster-with-Tortoise-Shell-Pickguard?sku=512732

I dont believe it is, and i think this guitar is better than the one in the package.

I believe the guitar in the pack is an Affinity (piece of junk) series Squier, whereas the other one is a Standard series, which is much better.
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#21
I told him to actually think about what he buys first, i mean i think he's being rash on his decision he's the kind of person to buy the first thing that catches his eye, i mean we've been drinking all day and this might influence his gut decision even more, so i mean, im not sure what to buy, what agiles do any of you suggest? or anymore from musicians friend.

BTW we live in canada just so you know and that the MF links arent only for states shipping thanks.
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#22
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I believe the guitar in the pack is an Affinity (piece of junk) series Squier, whereas the other one is a Standard series, which is much better.


yes the guitar in LOOKS looks very alike, but I know what a standard looks like and that the one in the first link doesnt look like the standard, i really dont know what it is.
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#24
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yes the guitar in LOOKS looks very alike, but I know what a standard looks like and that the one in the first link doesnt look like the standard, i really dont know what it is.

I just told you it was an Affinity.
Epiphone Dot
DIY Esquire w/Neovin Power Rock pickup
Vox AC30VR 212
Arion MTE-1 (LED clipping diodes added)
Vox Tonelab LE
Roland SDE1000 delay

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By high-gain I don't mean stupid stuff. I just mean styles like Motley Crue or Iron Maiden