#1
So... I have been playing for around 9 months, maybe 10 now. I have lots of fun playing music, and I can play alot of songs I really like. But... I struggle with timing. And, I also read in alot of places that there's more to practicing than just finding tabs of your favorite songs and mimicking it. So... What else is there? Excersises? I'm pretty much lost here. During my entire duration of guitar playing, the songs I loved and can now play pushed my techniques and obviously I practiced them.

In short, How should I be practicing?
#4
Had lessons... I stopped going due to schedule difficulties. I got books, just... They're theory books, not guitar playing books.
#5
practise songs with a metronome, slowly at first, then gradually building up speed.
learn scales and chords, practise moving between chords.
learn bits of music theory, although this might be hard if you've not even been playing a year yet.
point to a random fret on your guitar and say what note it is. this will be hard at first, but will get easier the more you do it.
work on techniques that you find hard, but leave out sweep picking for another year or so.
and remember, you can always improve on something...just coz you can already do hammer-on's quite well doesn't mean you shouldn't practise to get them better.
and a good piece of advice my guitar teacher told me, and i teach, and i think iv seen in someone's sig, is that you shouldn't practise until you can play something right, but until you can't play it wrong.

remember, don't do all of these at once...mix and match and keep it fun. at your stage, you should still focus on learning songs as much as mixing in everything else. maybe even start working songs out by ear? dunno if you're ready for that, but you can try it.
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#6
I know a guy who plays everything by ear, and he's played for 7 months longer than myself.... Granted, he can't read tabs, stay in time, and he knows absolutely no theory... Still, very impressive... At first.

Also, could some one tell me exactly how to use like a metronome? I usually find myself thinking "I must be doing this wrong. Why am I spot on with the recording, but can't do crap with this little metronome?"
#7
finger exorcises, learn scales, try playing differnent generes, defenatly get a metronome. despite what people say, i dont think you should get lessons. i never had a lesson in my life and i would like to think i am a decent guitarist. by teaching yourself you learn to disipline yourself, learn your own style (not your teachers), and find your own mistakes, which, in the long run, will help you out more in my opinion. i know that was a very controversial statement but, whatever floats your boat
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get lessons... practice what the teacher gives you?



dude, i love your avatar, i saw streetlight at least five times so far and i got to hang out with tom for half an hour after the show one time. theyre super chill and have the kickassest music, im congradulating you on liking ska, not many people know of it. you ever see streetlight/botar/or the old catch?
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#9
I agree... Even though I have no real experience to base my opinion on, I like to tell people "I'm self taught." I only had lessons for 5 weeks. and, being "self taught" gets you more respect from alot of guitarists my age. (15) They see how I progressed on my own, while they were concentrating so hard on what the teacher said, I was doing what I pleased and learning exactly what I wanted when I wanted.
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Quote by CraZyB0y
I know a guy who plays everything by ear, and he's played for 7 months longer than myself.... Granted, he can't read tabs, stay in time, and he knows absolutely no theory... Still, very impressive... At first.

Also, could some one tell me exactly how to use like a metronome? I usually find myself thinking "I must be doing this wrong. Why am I spot on with the recording, but can't do crap with this little metronome?"



ok metronome 101

turn on

dial to desiried beat

listen

play


its realy easy, even idiots can do it
HiMyNameIsMatt
#11
Hmmm... I guess I just have to get used to counting beats to play 8th notes and so on?
#12
Quote by CraZyB0y
I agree... Even though I have no real experience to base my opinion on, I like to tell people "I'm self taught." I only had lessons for 5 weeks. and, being "self taught" gets you more respect from alot of guitarists my age. (15) They see how I progressed on my own, while they were concentrating so hard on what the teacher said, I was doing what I pleased and learning exactly what I wanted when I wanted.



sick man, i did the same thing when i was 13 or 14, i never though id be where im at now, keep at it, this summer im goin on tour, that can be you. being self taught gets you alot of respect, zachy vengence from a7x was self taught, synyster was kinda, his dad was a player so he kinda taught him. but dude, go on UG and in the lessons, print out the music theory lessons. they help alot when your teaching youself. you need to memorize all the notes tho (its realy easy, just a pattern). you keep doin what your doin, but what helps is this. pick your favorate song that has good guitar work in it. then get tabs for it and sit in your room untill you get something that slightly resembles it. then work on that song untill you get it perfect. that is good practice on style, finger memory, and perserverence. if you like playing guitar, you will get it.
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Hmmm... I guess I just have to get used to counting beats to play 8th notes and so on?



yea, metronomes are in BPM, beats per minute
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#15
Sweet... I must look pretty sad to a dude who's going on tour. And, yeah... I like to be able to walk up to some one and talk some basic theory (just mention the term scales, not elaborate since I'm not that fluent in it) and completely blow away some other dude who had a teacher and played longer than myself.

I have a small band, we're not the most talented bunch, but I wanted to start playing with other people just... Get a feel for it. We'll eventually put something up on myspace or something... Not anytime soon though, that guy I mentioned earlier, the one who plays by ear. He's in my band, and so... I'm kinda teaching him some stuff. I'm more or less the band leader, since its just myself and the other guitarist, and a drummer. We need stuff like timing very badly... I want us to progress from random jamming to some actual playing as a band. So... I decided I better start learning timing, which is my current weakest point.

Do you have any other tips and suggestions? I know this would fit better in the Bandleading section but, What can I do to bring everybody together and sorta progress us all as a band? We're VERY VERY limited on practice time each week, and the drummer has no drumset of his own. We play in a church from 6:30pm to whenever they run us out every Tuesday. Any tips on how to make the very most of our little bit of time each week? As well as tips on progressing as a band?

EDIT: Oh, ok man.
Last edited by CraZyB0y at May 27, 2008,
#16
i have so much to say dude, do you have AIM or facebook? i had that exact problam when i started up my band. some words of wisdom, DO NOT POST YOUR MUSIC ONLINE!! we posted it on myspace and a few weeks later it was being downloaded on limewire, thats not fun ****. instead, save your recordings, get a label, then illigal downloading is not your problam. timing, its not as hard as youd think. what i do is this. get a nice intro to the song, that will set the feel for it and how its speed should be around, the general vibe well say. now, to me, being a lyricyst and guitarist (i do vocals and play lead guitar), it is much easier to get tempo off the lyrics. lots of people beg to differ but to me, the lyrics get the point across. so when i write lyrics, i can sing them through and account for the timing before i have ANY intriment to back it. then i take that, and sing it over and over, its then that i feel that song. then i write my intro, record the intro and a crude vocal, burn it, and give it to the rythem man. he then works his magic and gets his work there done, he records it and sends it to me. then i cruly mix it all and do my solos and **** like that. then that gets recorded and crudly mixed. then the bassist does his then, then the drummer (he needs something for "inspiration") then that all gets crudly mixed. then we tweak the parts and hit the studio for a final cut at it all. thats how we record. the timing comes naturaly if you do the vocals first.

bro, you dont look sad, were all guitarists here and we all sucked at some point so i know where your at. i remember rockin out on a ibanez with a 5W amp in my room thinking that i was gunna be bigger than queen, pink floyd, led zep, and black sabbath combined. its an attitude. im not suggesting taht you do this, but i remember in 8th grade, instead of taking notes in class, i was composing guitar parts. i live, eat, breath, and sleep music. will i make it big? no one realy knows man. do what you do. BE A LEADER!! if your band doesnt want to practice, then tell them you dont need them and they are replaceable, it sounds like being a dick but they will show up and you will sound better. seriously IM me man, i enjoy helping other people, seriously. even if you just want to say watsup, or you want to talk guitar, just send me a IM
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#17
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DO NOT POST YOUR MUSIC ONLINE!! we posted it on myspace and a few weeks later it was being downloaded on limewire, thats not fun ****. instead, save your recordings, get a label, then illigal downloading is not your problam.


Yeah, but on the other hand, if it's not that serious yet, like, saleable music. Then that's a good way to get exposure, then when you do get a label, people already heard of you.


Btw, crazyb0y, you don't look sad, I remember just starting out, we were all at your stage once.

I taught myself for about a year, and thought I was getting along great, then my mum pestered to go to lessons, and I finally gave in, when I started going I really progressed. It just depends on the teacher I guess.



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Yeah, but on the other hand, if it's not that serious yet, like, saleable music. Then that's a good way to get exposure, then when you do get a label, people already heard of you.

~Louis



good exposure is kids going to your show and you put on a ****in crazy show. then they tell their friends, and they go to your next show and your bands name gets thrown around. not illigaly downloaded music. why will they want to pay for our album if they can download it for free? if its not sellable then why release it? that sends out a band name and image for your band, thats my two sense
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#19
Yeah, I mean like, to put on a couple of tracks. Not a full album. If you sell albums anyway, they'll still end up oin limewire etc.

Also +1 to the crazy shows That works too.
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#22
Thanks alot for the advice, tips, and stuff guys. I'm going to just, go ahead and start a topic discussing my current band over in the Bandleading section so this thread doesn't get cloed for being off-topic. Once agian, thanks ALOT. Especially Surge... That's like the most encouragement concerning guitars and music I've ever received...
#23
Hey CraZyB0y

For this you have to do practice continuously. You just search most popular songs on youtube that you like and play with your selected songs.
Hope my advise will help you!
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i have so much to say dude, do you have AIM or facebook? i had that exact problam when i started up my band. some words of wisdom, DO NOT POST YOUR MUSIC ONLINE!! we posted it on myspace and a few weeks later it was being downloaded on limewire, thats not fun ****. instead, save your recordings, get a label, then illigal downloading is not your problam....


Seriously, what did you expect? That's the whole point of putting tracks on Myspace, so people will share them and you'll get well known. If you put everything you've ever written on there then I really have no sympathy for you but did you not realise that would happen. It's not like people can't listen to it for free from the Myspace page anyway, what's the difference between that and them downloading it? They're still listening to it for free. Besides, if you knowingly made stuff available in the public domain then it's not illegal downloading, it's LEGAL downloading!

You should be grateful that people thought your stuff was good enough to share and download rather than getting all uppity because you think you're more important than you are. For a band starting up exposure is EVERYTHING, the more people who like you and want your music then the more chance you have of actually getting to the point where you can ask for money in exchange for your music and not have people laugh.
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#26
If you have trouble with timing, get a metronome.
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