#1
Howdy dudes, its sorta occured to me that my solos are a bit drab, but not just my solos in general, its things such as my tapping and sweep picking. They seem boring and dont fit in sometimes

you guys got any ideas on how to make my tapping sound better, and help me make my sweep picking sound a bit cooler.

Like ive tried tapping on multiple strings and stuff, but it sounds to be honest crap :P

also if you have any other techniques that may be of use just suggest them


cheers dudes!
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try using effects for your tapping
tapping tends to sound better with heavier distortion
at leas to me it does.
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try using effects for your tapping
tapping tends to sound better with heavier distortion
at leas to me it does.


Might be your amp. Regardless, it does sound better with distortion.
Sweeping...you gotta get a little more specific than that if you want help.
What don't you like about your sweeping?
#5
hmm well with my sweeping it seems outta place, i can be jamming along and when i go to sweep it seems random, i need a way to make the transition sound better, i know it sounds sorta stupid but i wanted to post another forum bout it cus sumtimes i get some awesome feedback

and also i want to know how to add stuff to my sweeping so it sounds better than just the basic stuff you get, like sweep taps and what not


sorry if i sound sorta weird :P
#6
I can't sweep worth a darn...or I have my own style.
kinda like the sweep tap.lol

I'm not sure what equipments or guitar you have or how you set it up.

Maybe just try praticing tapping clean.

To get sustain without a dirty distortion, I use a slight delay and reverb.
I have the gt-8 thou... there's all kinds of perimters and set ups.

anyway, what improved my playing was to go back to the basic
and pratice doing those simple inflections..bends , slides...

vibrato...not the whammy bar.
I was listen to eric johnson at that time and notice how he made those
notes sing from vibratos.

I start practice playing slower and using inflections, such as slide
notes up or down like the satch...at the beging or ending of phasing.

I also started practicing improv questions and answers phrasing

By mixing fast notes and slow, my playing became more dynamic.
I sounded a lot better. The slower notes actaully compremise my
speed notes.

I also went back to relearned the pentatonic.
I also started learning different scales beside the modes.

I also started listening to jazz. I have a CD of some jazz music
with some unknow guitarist. He sweeps and do all kinds of stuff
just like metal.lol But it's jazz

and he dose crazy riffs and scales clean.lol
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Howdy dudes, its sorta occured to me that my solos are a bit drab, but not just my solos in general, its things such as my tapping and sweep picking. They seem boring and dont fit in sometimes

you guys got any ideas on how to make my tapping sound better, and help me make my sweep picking sound a bit cooler.

Like ive tried tapping on multiple strings and stuff, but it sounds to be honest crap :P

also if you have any other techniques that may be of use just suggest them


cheers dudes!


You're probably just overusing tapping and sweeping. *shrug* Check out the 4 in my sig for some tips anyho.
#8
hmm, well its not that i use them too much, cus i dnt use them that much at all, especially sweep picking, so maybe its that and therefore im not experienced enough, and as for the other dude who said my slides and bends, im pretty sure they're ok, my teacher did this thing where he would constantly make me do bends for like 8 seconds at a time, so he deffo hammered them in


or am i just being stubborn and ignorrant?

cheers anyway


i suppose im not explaining well enough :P
#9
Sounds like a lack of theory knowledge - chords, picking, tapping and sweeping all use the same notes, it's not the technique itself that's interesting but how you use it. If you're just tapping or sweeping fairly random stuff without seeing if it fits then no, it's not going to sound good.

IMO tapping and sweeping shouldn't even be attempted until you've already become fairly proficient at expressing yourself with more basic, essential techniques...if you can't produce something meaningful with simple picking you're not going to be able to do so using more advanced techniques either. There's little to be gained from learning a technique unless you're in a postion to make use of it.

Scenario A
Guitarist learns the basics and gradually accumulates theory knowledge and learns to apply it. When he's starting to feel limited somewhere down the line he learns sweeping and tapping to extend his repertoire...he spends a few weeks nailing the technique but is already bursting with ideas as to how he's going to use them. He's gradually become a better and better guitarist, developing steadily and will continue to do so.

Scenario B
Guitarist learns the basics and then swiftly moves on to more advanced techniques like sweeping and tapping without really taking time to explore and absorb what' he's learned and barely touches on theory. He then spends ages being equally crap at several things, which is both unrewarding and demotivating. He'll also struggle to make sense of the theory side of things because he's put far too much emphasis on the physical aspects of playing the guitar.
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#10
Maybe listen to veriouse style of music.
It's a pain sometimes becuase some of it sounds awful at first.
But it will expose you to differnt sounds, tech, scales..etc.

Sometimes i play whats in my head...and a lot of times
what's in my head is what i was listen to or a veriation of it.
#11
hmm the answer just above sounds good ^^

but i think i need to explain a bit more cus people think im **** at the basics

ive been playing for three years

know quite a lot about scales and chord theory *just not so much on things like dominant 7ths etc.*

got lots of basics such as alternate picking, bending/vibrato, legato etc.


the only reason im looking at more adv. techniques is cause the basics are pretty hammered in and i think its time to learn new stuff


the only thing i wanna know is how to use them


like should i tap on more than one string


just give me some interesting ideas on how to use those techniques (sweeping. tapping etc.)


maybe i should have been more clear from the start...

cheers dudes
#12
In that case you need to play around with more advanced musical ideas in your head - those things like dominant 7ths are pretty basic concepts as far as theory goes. If you don't understand them then you probably need to reasess your theory knowledge and start filling in some gaps.

The more musical knowledge you have at your disposal the more naturally more complex ideas will come to you. For example, if you've only ever learned a scale as a single box position that's all you'll ever play, you won't be able to see how to use tapping in that context because you only know that 4 fret span and everything else is unknown.

However, if you know the notes on the fretboard and are familiar with intervals then you can know the scale all over the fretboard much better and can see far more possibilities for the extended range that tapping gives you.
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#13
Tap on more than one string. I do it somtimes. That's what i did on
the solo of Threshold. It's actaully just a line from a classical song


cross you're hand when you tap.
A lot of it is just for looks.lol
There so many veriations of it and some of it do make a differents

what like to do sometimes is just tap at the 12 fret and have my
frest board hand move up and down the neck hammer/pull 2 notes.
So i'm doing scales or a sort of interval instead of just tapping arppegios.

Stanley Jordan (jazz) taps on multi strings like crazy.
He play the scale of fretboard hand regular but he taps extra notes
instead of picking or sweeping them. He playing maybe 5 notes per string.
He play scales all over the fretboard...like that

maybe you can serch on the tube.
here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQzs_TesaYI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3gHtPLXQOI&feature=related


maybe check out Midnight or Ras barry jam delta V by the satch
These are multi strings taps.

Tap for a sweep is when you get to bottom string...just reach
over and tap extra notes before you sweep up.
it takes practice..but it's on a CD i have.

Are you hammering notes when you're sweeping instead of just
sweeping arppegios ?
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