#1
So, I was out the other night with some older friends at a gig, and some of them (they're experienced musicians) were able to hear when the band changed key (and thus mock them, due to the low quality material we were listening through).
My question is, how is the best way to develop an instinct to know when the key changes?
I've been doing alot theory work but it's taken the back seat for the last few weeks due to exams at college etc; so is it just a case of playing around with keys and learning how each sounds so you can spot the differences or is there something more gleamingly simple to it that i'm overlooking?
#3
Ahh cheers, just to check, is that change around the 3:15 mark if you have the ability to check?

If anyone else has more examples i'd be very grateful

#4
Yeah it's simple as maj and min triads or chords.
it's too obviouse when you hear a b3 instead of a 3rd
or a b7 instead of 7th

Maybe try thinking in pitch.

Maybe you're freinds where just hearing the same movement
being played over and over again in diffrent pitch.

So many pop or blues songs are I,IV,V moment.

nervana and greenday use the same movement over and over
again for different songs.
Smell like teen stuff..is the same movement as Broken Boulevard,lol

so maybe the band just changed the keys to match the singer's vioce.
I rather play easy and sound good then to play hard and sound like ****.
Last edited by Ordinary at May 30, 2008,
#5
If it's an abrupt key change you can usually tell, as in Living on a Prayer or "So Lonely" by the Police, however there are modulation possibilities such as modulating from the tonic and making the fourth degree the tonic for a bit, which would be harder to spot.
#7
A classical piece, Prelude in D minor by Bach(it was originally in C minor), is really on huge modulation, seeing that you start in D minor and finish in A major. Find some vids on youtube and check it out.
#8
http://boomp3.com/listen/csrlood/orinaryd

I wrote this song to experinment with key changes within a song .
I kept it simple A part and B part.
and also ..practice writing songs for vocals.

The A part sounds like whitey snaked and the B part sounds like bad medicine.lol
A part in D maj , B part in Dmin.

The melody i wanted to sound like the Satch...the solo i wanted it to
sound like Schenker...so I rip B min pentatonic for the solos.

i had a heck of time cooking up a scale for the B part.
so i rip D ionian over it and had my processor spit out the notes backwards.

I also just improve for the ending solo..practing using the penatonic
over a rock song without too sounding bluesy. Plus just playing what
I felt.
I had a bad habit of just ripping through note modes/scales preiousely,
so it was a sort of change i was trying to make myself do.

The middle solo...I cooked/wrote and phased together.

It was a great learning process for me and trying to apply my comprehension
of music at that time.
#9
Listen to worship music or something similar and get to the point where you can point out a diatonic chord progression pretty easily. Then listen to something else, maybe Californication or Misty(the jazz standard). If you're drawing a blank, one of the possibilities is a key change.