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#1
So today I was talking with my girlfriends friend, who is only 15 and pregnant for the second time this year (same guy).

I jokingly said "you should have come to us, we got a bunch of free condoms at the gay pride march" which is true, but I wasn't being serious. Her boyfriend said "why the f*ck were you at a fag parade?" and I said "why not?" and he made a disgusted face and was like "whatever, faggot" which is so silly because I'm standing there with my girlfriend of course.

So I kind of laughed and said "you know they actually have this study on homophobic men which I showed I think that 60% of homophobic men had a higher sexual response while watching gay porn than heterosexual men that were okay with gay people" and he started walking away so I yelled after him "don't worry about it though, knocking up an underage girl is total proof of your masculinity, good investment, don't worry, you're safe buddy"

This was earlier today and now I'm getting a bunch of texts saying things like "watch your back fag" and all this other really stupid stuff.

But why? Why are people so homophobic? Like what is the problem. I'm seriously looking for some homophobe to come out right now and have a debate with me, like message me if need be, I know this topic has been discussed before, but I'm 100% convinced that there is no valid or even logical reason. Not even religious.

So why? Anyone?
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#6
because people are stupid. for every thing that exists, theres a person thats too stupid to understand its existence, and therefore hates it.
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I have no opinion on this matter.
#7
I dunno i'm not gay but everyone gets really worked up about it. They r just jealous because gay people are good at bakery
#8
Some people are just douches I guess
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#9
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You could've not said stupid things.


Please, elaborate. I was a little rude, I'll admit, but I just don't play well with ignorance. It brings out the jerk in me.
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#10
I have no idea. My friend is a homophobe and I've asked him why he hates gays but he's never given me a legit reason.
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"don't worry about it though, knocking up an underage girl is total proof of your masculinity, good investment, don't worry, you're safe buddy"

Moment of genius.
Congratulations.

To answer the question. No idea.
#12
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Please, elaborate. I was a little rude, I'll admit, but I just don't play well with ignorance. It brings out the jerk in me.

Staying quiet would've showed you're the bigger man, but ironically you weren't.
#13
"Because they take it in the butt", apparently. Girls are excused "because they're girls".
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#14
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So today I was talking with my girlfriends friend, who is only 15 and pregnant for the second time this year (same guy).

I jokingly said "you should have come to us, we got a bunch of free condoms at the gay pride march" which is true, but I wasn't being serious. Her boyfriend said "why the f*ck were you at a fag parade?" and I said "why not?" and he made a disgusted face and was like "whatever, faggot" which is so silly because I'm standing there with my girlfriend of course.

So I kind of laughed and said "you know they actually have this study on homophobic men which I showed I think that 60% of homophobic men had a higher sexual response while watching gay porn than heterosexual men that were okay with gay people" and he started walking away so I yelled after him "don't worry about it though, knocking up an underage girl is total proof of your masculinity, good investment, don't worry, you're safe buddy"

This was earlier today and now I'm getting a bunch of texts saying things like "watch your back fag" and all this other really stupid stuff.

But why? Why are people so homophobic? Like what is the problem. I'm seriously looking for some homophobe to come out right now and have a debate with me, like message me if need be, I know this topic has been discussed before, but I'm 100% convinced that there is no valid or even logical reason. Not even religious.

So why? Anyone?


So you pulled bull **** from your ass? I don't see any studies showing that , and you didn't credit anything you just spoke it. Why didn't you answer him why where you at a gay parade lol? Sorry but I hate gay people , i think its stupid and disgusting but I do believe they should maintain their rights.

BTW it's called opinions , I shouldn't have to be forced into accepting something just because others do or just because it's a way of life.
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Staying quiet would've showed you're the bigger man, but ironically you weren't.


Possibly. But I don't regret what I said.
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#17
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You could've not said stupid things.


Nope wrong. Why should he have been scared to say his opinion? I know you may think he went too far and said too much but he was trying to make sure the other guy knew what his view was on the topic. Unfortuneatly what he did not now was how immature the guy would be about it.
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ok so one time i was totally wanking and then my mom walked in and my cat was in my room... she knocked first so i grabbed my cat and put it on my lap and started petting it to cover up but then i jizzed on my cat..
#18
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Possibly. But I don't regret what I said.

If you would, you might grow up. You didn't say anything really effective, just some middle school insults.
#19
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I have no idea. My friend is a homophobe and I've asked him why he hates gays but he's never given me a legit reason.

yeah same
whenever i ask him hes like cause there gay
im like whats wrong with that
hes like there gay
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#20
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Because they're immature fuckheads.

This.

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#21
Well, I am slightly uncomfortable with the concept, but I support gay rights and all, they should be free to do whatever the hell they like, including marriage and adoption. It just seems weird :S
#23
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yeah same
whenever i ask him hes like cause there gay
im like whats wrong with that
hes like there gay

Because they're men, and they're being shameful.
#24
Because the majority of guys today are soft-centred, weak enough to actually care and worried about their own image.
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So you pulled bull **** from your ass? I don't see any studies showing that , and you didn't credit anything you just spoke it. Why didn't you answer him why where you at a gay parade lol? Sorry but I hate gay people , i think its stupid and disgusting but I do believe they should maintain their rights.

BTW it's called opinions , I shouldn't have to be forced into accepting something just because others do or just because it's a way of life.

The "I HAS OPINIONS" argument does nothing, he has as much right to dislike you for being homophobic as you have to hate gay people for being gay.

So, could you tell us why being attracted to men is stupid? And why is finding gay sex disgusting a good enough reason to hate anyone who does it?
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#26
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Why is it "stupid" and disgusting good sir?


It's stupid because it's almost obvious that men shouldn't be with men ( hence women only get pregnant and vast majority of people are straight ) and it's disgusting because well i mean does it need explaining? The thought of be aroused by another man , or having anal sex is seriously disgusting on multiple levels.
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The "I HAS OPINIONS" argument does nothing, he has as much right to dislike you for being homophobic as you have to hate gay people for being gay.

So, could you tell us why being attracted to men is stupid? And why is finding gay sex disgusting a good enough reason to hate anyone who does it?


I didn't say he didn't? He has the right to hate me for anything as do I.

Gay sex IS disgusting and I will dislike anyone who engages in it because they are disgusting to me as well.
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#27
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So you pulled bull **** from your ass? I don't see any studies showing that , and you didn't credit anything you just spoke it. Why didn't you answer him why where you at a gay parade lol? Sorry but I hate gay people , i think its stupid and disgusting but I do believe they should maintain their rights.

BTW it's called opinions , I shouldn't have to be forced into accepting something just because others do or just because it's a way of life.


Actually, I got that information from a book a few months ago. By Neal Boortz called "Somebody's Gotta Say It"...

I consider myself to be decently intelligent, and I'm not the kind of guy to support myself through something I haven't thoroughly researched on my own. I'm a skeptical critic to be honest.

Try some of these sites if you don't believe me.

http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

Google "is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal" if my links weren't adequate enough for you.

And by the way, I totally agree, 100%, we should all have our own opinions, but I think there's a difference between an opinion and blatant intolerance, and that's something that we as a society need to be aware of.
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#28
You know, in this day and age, it's all about the women's world and rights and such, and so many guys are being "womanized". It's a shame really, and not to mention that a lot of the guys who go gay either got screwed with relationships, then say all girls are bad, or they came from a bad home which had no moral understanding at all, or they give that poor old "I didn't know I was gay until now" crap, which is just them saying they've been womanized and don't have the balls to stand up and be a man.
#29
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It's stupid because it's almost obvious that men shouldn't be with men ( hence women only get pregnant and vast majority of people are straight ) and it's disgusting because well i mean does it need explaining? The thought of be aroused by another man , or having anal sex is seriously disgusting on multiple levels.

Do you hate people who have miscarriages? Do you hate people who have abortions, use condoms or take the pill? Do you hate people who don't get married?

Do you hate ugly people as well? I find the thought of ugly people have sex pretty disgusting.

Do you hate gay people who don't have gay sex?

The vast majority of people aren't Megadeth fans. Do you hate me for liking Megadeth? Most people aren't you, either. In fact, it's pretty close to 100% of people that aren't you. Does that mean you're not meant to be? Do you hate yourself?
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#30
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Actually, I got that information from a book a few months ago. By Neal Boortz called "Somebody's Gotta Say It"...

I consider myself to be decently intelligent, and I'm not the kind of guy to support myself through something I haven't thoroughly researched on my own. I'm a skeptical critic to be honest.

Try some of these sites if you don't believe me.

http://www.oogachaga.com/downloads/homophobia_and_homosexual_arousal.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

Google "is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal" if my links weren't adequate enough for you.

And by the way, I totally agree, 100%, we should all have our own opinions, but I think there's a difference between an opinion and blatant intolerance, and that's something that we as a society need to be aware of.


Very true but when is "enough" enough , you understand. Let me give you an example this may come off sounding stupid but if you can dig deeper than the main picture I think you'll get it. Say 50 years from now gay people everywhere have rights full rights and the world is fine , and it turns out that now people want to marry lets say their dogs , and this group of people want the right to marry their dogs , and it turns out many people feel this way and want their rights. Must we give them their rights solely not to be intolerant. Do you understand what I mean , most ignorant people get the idea that I'm saying gay people are like animals , thats not really it what I'm saying is when a select group of people are doing something it doesn't mean it should be accepted or "tolerated".
#31
Quote by x_thurston_x
Not even religious.



yeah the bible says something about how a dudes shalt not layith with another dude like he laysith with a woman.


and you live in america which is so retardedly christian it isnt funny...

im not a homophobe but i live in Kansas and damn near everyone else is.. its funny... theyre racist too...


thats not funny.
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#32
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Do you hate people who have miscarriages? Do you hate people who have abortions, use condoms or take the pill? Do you hate people who don't get married?

Do you hate ugly people as well? I find the thought of ugly people have sex pretty disgusting.

Do you hate gay people who don't have gay sex?


Miscarriages , Nope
Abortions , Nope
Condoms / Pills , Nope
Marriage , Nope
Ugly People , Nope
Gay People who don't have gay sex , yes , their gay the thought of having some form of sexual relationship with the same arouses them and it disgusts me.
#33
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yeah the bible says something about how a dudes shalt not layith with another dude like he laysith with a woman.


and you live in america which is so retardedly christian it isnt funny...

im not a homophobe but i live in Kansas and damn near everyone else is.. its funny... theyre racist too...


thats not funny.

Something wrong with morals and ethics?
#34
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Very true but when is "enough" enough , you understand. Let me give you an example this may come off sounding stupid but if you can dig deeper than the main picture I think you'll get it. Say 50 years from now gay people everywhere have rights full rights and the world is fine , and it turns out that now people want to marry lets say their dogs , and this group of people want the right to marry their dogs , and it turns out many people feel this way and want their rights. Must we give them their rights solely not to be intolerant. Do you understand what I mean , most ignorant people get the idea that I'm saying gay people are like animals , thats not really it what I'm saying is when a select group of people are doing something it doesn't mean it should be accepted or "tolerated".

Both members of a gay marriage are consenting, and nobody is taking advantage of anyone. A dog is unable to give consent and therefore that is where we draw the line.
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#35
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If you would, you might grow up. You didn't say anything really effective, just some middle school insults.


See I don't really agree with that. It would be much different had I yelled at him or tried to start a fight, and I feel that I did neither of those things.
But to each his own. I know that ultimately, I am the better man. And even if I kept my mouth shut, its not like that would have had any effect. I have strong beliefs, and I'm very vocal about that, I'm almost allergic to apathy, and that's all there is to be said.

And about your last comment, where did you get that? We live in a society that has had technological advances that have greatly surpassed their morals and beliefs, and its still hard to be who you want to be without being ridiculed. I promise you that a very few percentage of gays will ever tell you that they never knew they were gay.

The fact of that matter is that you are who you are, and at some point your true colors will come out. Straight or gay. But we all have different ways of coming to terms with that don't we?
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#36
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Both members of a gay marriage are consenting, and nobody is taking advantage of anyone. A dog is unable to give consent and therefore that is where we draw the line.


Thats where you draw the line....
Where others draw it may be different
So what makes your line better than anyone elses?
Everyone has different limits.
#37
To begin with, I have to commend your willingness to stand up for your ideals. That said, think about what you say next time. Being antagonistic will never win anyone over, and it would be nice if you aimed at changing peoples' opinions instead of pissing them off and closing their minds to other views. In reality, what have you done but created one person who is just much more militantly anti-gay? What these people need is an example of tolerance, not some bitchfest that doesn't achieve anything. You won't change anyone's ideas with one conversation, and you shouldn't expect to, but maybe with smaller and less antagonistic steps you can enact some real change.
#38
Do you hate whalepudding because i think he wants to beat your ass if he saw you ?
jk.

But seriously.
Most people who can't understand something don't know what to feel towards it.
Which causes the feeling to turn to hate.
People are stupid.
And they know it.
If a straight guy can't understand why some gay person would be aroused by a person of the same gender then because he can't accept it
He will condemn it.
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#39
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Very true but when is "enough" enough , you understand. Let me give you an example this may come off sounding stupid but if you can dig deeper than the main picture I think you'll get it. Say 50 years from now gay people everywhere have rights full rights and the world is fine , and it turns out that now people want to marry lets say their dogs , and this group of people want the right to marry their dogs , and it turns out many people feel this way and want their rights. Must we give them their rights solely not to be intolerant. Do you understand what I mean , most ignorant people get the idea that I'm saying gay people are like animals , thats not really it what I'm saying is when a select group of people are doing something it doesn't mean it should be accepted or "tolerated".

so let them marry dogs
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Quote by x_thurston_x
See I don't really agree with that. It would be much different had I yelled at him or tried to start a fight, and I feel that I did neither of those things.
But to each his own. I know that ultimately, I am the better man. And even if I kept my mouth shut, its not like that would have had any effect. I have strong beliefs, and I'm very vocal about that, I'm almost allergic to apathy, and that's all there is to be said.

And about your last comment, where did you get that? We live in a society that has had technological advances that have greatly surpassed their morals and beliefs, and its still hard to be who you want to be without being ridiculed. I promise you that a very few percentage of gays will ever tell you that they never knew they were gay.

The fact of that matter is that you are who you are, and at some point your true colors will come out. Straight or gay. But we all have different ways of coming to terms with that don't we?

Of course you don't agree with that. It came out of your mouth, and you're all proud of your witty but useless and unnecessary comeback. That's what a middle school insult is, just an argument without purpose and lacking any maturity.
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