#1
at 4:37 in the song, how does John Petrucci get that Steve Vai-esque sound? Is it a style of play such as harmonics, the guitar he uses, his amp, or a pedal? any help in pursuing this sound would be appreciated.
#2
His equipment cost more than you're house so you're fucked
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#3
For Images and Words he used a Mesa Triaxis into a 2/90 Power Amp, and used a Roland JC120 for cleans. Petrucci seems to really like using a TC2290 for delay, chorus, etc., so based on the fact I actually haven't heard Under a Glass Moon (or maybe I have, but i've heard a few of the songs off of Images and Words), I don't know if he's got some effect going.

As umbrellacorp said, he does use REALLY expensive stuff (more notably a Mesa Mark IIC+...and he's got a bunch of them too, so there's 10 grand right there). Triaxis is about $1,000 used, the 2/90 is around the same price, getting a Mesa 4x12 Recto new is about $1,000, but used you could nab one for around 6 - 7 hundred.
#4
He uses Boogie Mark something heads. You can get a similar sound with a Dual Rectifier - perhaps with an OD to smooth things out a bit. Add a bit of delay too.

The actual notes he's playing at 4:37 if that is what you mean is 12th fret on E and B strings - with B string bent up a tone.
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#5
It's the way he plays it.
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#6
Dood u need his fingerz 2 get that tone! But seriously.. Basswood guitar, Air Norton in the neck. Triaxis/2:90, some kinda Eventide and a 2290 maybe will get you half way. Maybe a few recto cabs. Ermm..

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#7
Elaboration on my somewhat uninformative post...

It's like he plays pinch harmonics but only 1/2 if you get what I mean, quite hard to explain...
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#8
i thought it had something to do with harmonics...
i think it is some effect that he is running because the sound is different than the chorus, verse, etc.
it is probably the way he plays it, and if it is, any tips for me?
#9
is it exactly at 4:37? i don't have the album handy, but i have this youtube link... tell me the exact time from it (if you can), and i'll see what i do. it's technique rather than gear, that's for sure.

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i thought it had something to do with harmonics...
i think it is some effect that he is running because the sound is different than the chorus, verse, etc.
it is probably the way he plays it, and if it is, any tips for me?


If it's at exactly 4:37 and you mean the harmonic-like sound those are natural harmonics played at the 5th, 4th and 3rd frets in that order, more than that I don't think I can help.
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Well I was going on the models on my PODxt Live rather than the real thing. I've certainly got closer with that than the Mark IIC+ model.
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#12
technique.
sorry i have the album in hand but i'm too lazy to find that part.
if you're talking about the solo, just watch it on youtube.
the solo is full of tricks...double-stop bending, sliding, fast left hand positioning, fast alternate picking, natural harmonics, sweeping, bit of right hand tapping, single-string-legato-right-hand-tapping, light-whammy-bar-nudge bla bla bla
just watch it on youtube.
if you're not talking about the solo then forget everything i said.
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technique.
sorry i have the album in hand but i'm too lazy to find that part.
if you're talking about the solo, just watch it on youtube.
the solo is full of tricks...double-stop bending, sliding, fast left hand positioning, fast alternate picking, natural harmonics, sweeping, bit of right hand tapping, single-string-legato-right-hand-tapping, light-whammy-bar-nudge bla bla bla
just watch it on youtube.
if you're not talking about the solo then forget everything i said.



dude, i'm getting that same ibanez you have! Yeah, it's the harmonics. That solo is extremley hard for me.
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#14
the harmonics hardly come out. i needed to use the bridge pickups.
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#15
He half pinches one of the notes. The higher one I think.

                                                          /-------\
E--12*--------|-----------------------------------------|--------------------
B--12----14-14|-14/12--12--12--12/7--7-7-7/9-9-9/5-5-5--|-4--5--4--2---------
G-------------|-----------------------------------------|-------------4/2----
D-------------|-----------------------------------------|--------------------
A-------------|-----------------------------------------|--------------------
E-------------|-----------------------------------------|--------------------
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dude, i'm getting that same ibanez you have! Yeah, it's the harmonics. That solo is extremley hard for me.

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#17
During the tremolo picking pinch the first note after there is a slide.
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