#1
i was trying to get the chord progression for d mayor but when i try to get c# this happens:


D E F# G A B C# D D Major scale


C# D# F F# G# A# C C# C# Major scale
* * *

i need to make F sharp and G flat but i dont know of any triad that has those

triads:
mayor 1 3 5
minor 1 b3 5
augmented 1 3 5#
diminished 1 b3 b5

help please?
Last edited by alexcp94 at Jun 1, 2008,
#3
are you aware that its maJor?
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#4
C# Major scale:

C# D# E# F# G# A# B# C#

That should solve your problems
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#5
actually, to be correct there is no C# major, just Db major, because then you run into repeating letters in the scale. what i mean is that

C# D# F F# G# A# C C# looks better as Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db

although there is a C# minor (C# D# E F# G# A B C#) and no Db minor

and now i don't understand your question
#6
Quote by gbdp54
actually, to be correct there is no C# major, just Db major, because then you run into repeating letters in the scale. what i mean is that

C# D# F F# G# A# C C# looks better as Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db

although there is a C# minor (C# D# E F# G# A B C#) and no Db minor

and now i don't understand your question
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The quoted post is completely incorrect, except for there being no Db minor.
#7
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#8
actually, to be correct there is no C# major, just Db major, because then you run into repeating letters in the scale. what i mean is that

C# D# F F# G# A# C C# looks better as Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db

C# major does exist, and it's notes are C# D# E# F# G# A# B#
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#9
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the leading tone chord almost never works in popular music

whats the leading tone
#12
Quote by bangoodcharlote
The note leading to the tonic.

i just forgot what is a tonic lol what is happening to me
oh i remember now so the leading tone of c mayor scale would be b?
#16
well could some one explain me how do i resolve this problem...?

D E F# G A B C# D


C# D# E# F# G# A# B# C#

there are two problems

This gives notes C# E# G#.E# (3) and G# (5) are not in the key of C, and must be sharped to F# (b3) and G (b5), respectively. This gives us scale degrees 1 #3 b5, which is the formula for a I DONT KNOW??
#18
Quote by alexcp94
well could some one explain me how do i resolve this problem...?

D E F# G A B C# D


C# D# E# F# G# A# B# C#

there are two problems

This gives notes C# E# G#.E# (3) and G# (5) are not in the key of C, and must be sharped to F# (b3) and G (b5), respectively. This gives us scale degrees 1 #3 b5, which is the formula for a I DONT KNOW??



What is this supposed to be?
#19
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What is this supposed to be?

an attempt to determine if C# is diminished , major or minor
#20
It's diminished. The way you form triad chords is by finding the 1 of the chord, then skipping a tone in the scale (not the major scale, but the scale you're using, in this case D major) to find the third, then skipping a tone to find the fifth: C# D E F# G A B. You now have the notes in the C# chord in the key of D major. Compare those notes to the C# major scale. C# is in both scales, E is a half step lower than E#, so the chord must be minor or diminished, and G is a half step lower than G#, so the chord must be diminished.
#21
Quote by bangoodcharlote
It's diminished. The way you form triad chords is by finding the 1 of the chord, then skipping a tone in the scale (not the major scale, but the scale you're using, in this case D major) to find the third, then skipping a tone to find the fifth: C# D E F# G A B. You now have the notes in the C# chord in the key of D major. Compare those notes to the C# major scale. C# is in both scales, E is a half step lower than E#, so the chord must be minor or diminished, and G is a half step lower than G#, so the chord must be diminished.


i get what you are saying but i thought that if for example, the third of the chord scale is 1 step higher than the key scale note you need to lower it by a half step to make it the same note , but the key scale cant be modified or it doesnt marret wich one is modified, it only need to create a triad that exist?
Last edited by alexcp94 at Jun 1, 2008,
#22
The notes in the C# chord in the key of D major fall in the key of D major. If you don't understand that sentence tell, stop reading and tell me.

Based on my idea in the previous post, the notes in that C# chord are C# E G. Compare those notes to the notes with the similar root letter (C and C# have the same root letter) in the C# major scale. C# is exactly the same, E is a half-step lower than E#, and G is a half step lower than G#. E# is the 3 and G# is the 5, so lowering those a half step yields b3 and b5. C# is the 1, so that yields the formula 1 b3 5b, diminished.