#1
so i bought a mim strat less than a week ago. i set it up the way i like it and have been giving it moderate play the last few days (maybe a couple hours a day) and i find i'm needing to adjust the tuning ALOT more often than any other guitar i've owned. this is my first guitar with a trem and i have not been using the whammy at all (infact its not even screwed in). i'm not sure if tightening the screws on the actual heads of the tuning machines would help at all, but this guitar is constantly slipping into flat tuning...moreso on the lower strings. (EAD) I really hope I will not have to purchase locking heads for this guitar, as live i switch my tunings quite often, however when it comes to strats i don't have a whole lot of knowledge and i'm not sure what i should do.

any help would be great.
#2
How have you got the trem set up?

Have you got 1 string tree or 2 on?

What gauge strings are you using? Is the guitar set up for that gauge?
#4
trem is set up factory. i know nothing about them really. single string tree. i believe the strings are 9-42. fender factory again. i play 10-46 ernie balls. i'll change the strings & tighten the heads. see if that helps.
#5
Get a shop guy to take a look at it?
It should be good, thats a shame though, coz my mexican tuning stays solid forever
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#6
Quote by selloutpunx
trem is set up factory. i know nothing about them really. single string tree. i believe the strings are 9-42. fender factory again. i play 10-46 ernie balls. i'll change the strings & tighten the heads. see if that helps.

Did you buy it new? Have you changed the strings after you bought it? Normally, most tuners don't suffer backlash, even some inexpensive ones can hold tune if strung properly.

Check out http://www.stringthis.com/howtostringu.html. It might help eliminate the problem.

Good Luck!

#7
You can also lubricate the nut and saddles with either pencil graphite, or specialised lubricants like the Nut Sauce. Also, it could be worth upgrading the stock saddles.
#8
Quote by Ippon
Did you buy it new? Have you changed the strings after you bought it? Normally, most tuners don't suffer backlash, even some inexpensive ones can hold tune if strung properly.

Check out http://www.stringthis.com/howtostringu.html. It might help eliminate the problem.

Good Luck!



i bought it new, yes. but i hadn't changed the strings yet. i'm restringing it now. that was probably my first mistake :P
#9
I had this problem recently. You'll need to upgrade your tuners and replace the stock string tree with something a little higher quality. That should fix it, for the most part.
#11
ok. so i restrung the guitar, played the crap out of it, and fine tuned my tuning until it was holding a steady tune. then out of nowhere the bridge just popped up and is now sitting like a 1/4 inch off the body. wtf is up with that? honestly, these guitars scare me.
#12
Ok, you bought it new. So contact whoever you bought it from and complain, i mean from what you are saying, the bridge actually came out of the body? I mean, that can't be good....
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#13
didn't come out of the body. its just up on like a 15 degree angle now? is this normal behaviour?
#14
The End of the bridge that doesn't have the screws (assuming that you're using the 5-point stock bridge) should be screwed to the body. If that side is up then something is wrong. If the end of the bridge where the strings go in is sticking up, then that's normal.
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#15
Quote by selloutpunx
ok. so i restrung the guitar, played the crap out of it, and fine tuned my tuning until it was holding a steady tune. then out of nowhere the bridge just popped up and is now sitting like a 1/4 inch off the body. wtf is up with that? honestly, these guitars scare me.

That's because you put heavier strings on, they have more tension so they pull more on the bridge. You need to tighten the screws in the trem cavity to increase the spring tension and bring the bridge back down.
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#16
Quote by pl0x
Get a shop guy to take a look at it?
It should be good, thats a shame though, coz my mexican tuning stays solid forever

same here, but what year was yours made? (that question applies pl0x and selloutpunx )
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#17
Here's some more tips on keeping your guitar in tune:
There's several factors, when you're trying to keep a guitar in tune:
- Stringing technique
- proper setup
- As little friction as possible.

So let's attack these possible problems.
Friction - Your guitar has what are called string trees:

The circled metal thing keeps the string from popping out of the string nut. Useful, but they also create friction that prevents the string from returning to its proper pitch after a bend or something. So...apply some sort of lubrication to to the underside of the string tree, as pointed to by the arrow. Use something like Big Bends Nut Sauce, or Guitar Grease. Even pencil lead will work. Simply grind the pencil lead into dust on a paper, and use some of this dust on the point of friction. You can even use machine oil.
The same problem occurs at the string nut. Each groove has a bit of friction. So you can apply the same lubricant there, underneath the string, and that will help. You can also buy the appropriate replacement nut, but the nut should be made of graphite. There's less friction from that material.

Moving on to setup. There's a lot of material to cover with setup, far more than I feel inclined to go into...but I can point you towards some helpful links:
http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/tutorial1.htm
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602241&page=1&pp=20

Lastly, stringing technique. Yes, it's possible to string a guitar improperly. I actually mess with my Strats trem a lot, and it stays in tune really nicely. Of course, I have it lubricated at the proper points of friction and have a graphite nut, but I don't use locking tuners or anything like that. The secret? Stringing your guitar the right way! Here's a link that will show you how I do it:
http://www.stringthis.com/howtostringu.html
#18
Sounds like one of the bridge tension springs popped out of the trem block. Take the back cover off, de-tune the guitar, put the spring back on (loop on the claw, peg in one of the smaller holes in the trem block), and re-tune.

Also lube the nut with some graphite.
#19
i tightened the screws in the rear and it brought it back down to a normal angle. thanks.

one thing though, when i took the backplate off and flipped the guitar upside down (so the headstock was pointed towards the ground) a washer and nut fell onto the ground. not sure where they came from. any ideas?
#23
hmm. maybe it was just a spare tucked away or something. i honestly can't find anywhere that it belongs either, so im not too worried about it!