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where can i find a list and tabs of all the different kinds of shapes and stuff for 3 string and 5 string sweeps? i only know 1 major and 1 minor at the moment, and want to learn more! please help, and thanks in advance
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learn you theory and figure out all the arpeggio shapes yourself

its more fun and useful in the long run

ooh but look up diminished ones for the moment
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learn you theory and figure out all the arpeggio shapes yourself

its more fun and useful in the long run

ooh but look up diminished ones for the moment



thats what annoys me. ive done grade 5 piano theory and im on grade 8 practical piano lol. but i still cant figure out teh arpeggios for guitar.
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thats what annoys me. ive done grade 5 piano theory and im on grade 8 practical piano lol. but i still cant figure out teh arpeggios for guitar.


Then you're an idiot. Seriously; learn the notes of the fretboard, it'll open up your playing no end.
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Then you're an idiot. Seriously; learn the notes of the fretboard, it'll open up your playing no end.



you'll never get people to jam with talking like that. i know the notes of the fret board, but ive never bothered with scales. ive passed all my exams except grade 7 with pieces mainly. but i will try and learn.


http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/arpeggio.php

will that help with the scales?
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you'll never get people to jam with talking like that. i know the notes of the fret board, but ive never bothered with scales. ive passed all my exams except grade 7 with pieces mainly. but i will try and learn.


http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/arpeggio.php

will that help with the scales?


I'm confused. What exactly do you need help with here? You say you know the fretboard, and you know some theory. If this is true, then you should know what notes are in the arpeggios you're looking for, and you should know where they are on the guitar.
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I'm confused. What exactly do you need help with here? You say you know the fretboard, and you know some theory. If this is true, then you should know what notes are in the arpeggios you're looking for, and you should know where they are on the guitar.



yeah but all i know is like basic stuff. i have no idea about diminished scales and all that crap. its like 2 years since i did any theory at all. and thanks for the swept arpeggios for dummies link edg.
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you'll never get people to jam with talking like that. i know the notes of the fret board, but ive never bothered with scales. ive passed all my exams except grade 7 with pieces mainly. but i will try and learn.


http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/arpeggio.php

will that help with the scales?

You don't have to know scales. If you know the fretboard, there's no way you could possibly not be able to construct sweep shapes; they are arpeggios. You don't sweep pick scales. Just build a simple major or minor triad to start out with, pick a root on the string you want to begin on and locate the notes of the triad on close frets using the other strings.
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Then you're an idiot. Seriously; learn the notes of the fretboard, it'll open up your playing no end.


That was a little harsh. Take your own voice and open up your mind. He's not an idiot; perhaps he's just having a bit of trouble seeing things from a guitar point of view.

TS - Just keep in mind the 1,3,5 of each scale of each scale and realize that generally you will play one note per string (depending on which string - the bass E and treble E strings are easy and convenient to play two notes on), so construct your fingering into chord-like positions. Try starting from the bass E string, and then try starting from the A string. Try starting on your index finger, then try starting on your pinky. Just switch things around and use your basic knowledge of chords.
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That was a little harsh. Take your own voice and open up your mind. He's not an idiot; perhaps he's just having a bit of trouble seeing things from a guitar point of view.


Oh please, that was before I even knew he already knows the fretboard notes, seeing as how he knows the fretboard and theory he really shouldn't be asking this at all; constructing triads is hardly rocket science.
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Oh please, that was before I even knew he already knows the fretboard notes, seeing as how he knows the fretboard and theory he really shouldn't be asking this at all; constructing triads is hardly rocket science.


No one's arguing that constructing triads is rocket science. Simply the fact that you haven't been of any use in this thread, so why even bother posting if only to claim that the TS is an idiot?
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That was a little harsh. Take your own voice and open up your mind. He's not an idiot; perhaps he's just having a bit of trouble seeing things from a guitar point of view.

TS - Just keep in mind the 1,3,5 of each scale of each scale and realize that generally you will play one note per string (depending on which string - the bass E and treble E strings are easy and convenient to play two notes on), so construct your fingering into chord-like positions. Try starting from the bass E string, and then try starting from the A string. Try starting on your index finger, then try starting on your pinky. Just switch things around and use your basic knowledge of chords.



The best way to view it is to look at interval maps for different chords flat out and just try soloing over that chord using that interval map and some scales that coincide with it.
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Then you're an idiot. Seriously; learn the notes of the fretboard, it'll open up your playing no end.



Of course because you are an amazing guitarist... everyone look at this tool bags profile lol.
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Of course because you are an amazing guitarist... everyone look at this tool bags profile lol.


Firstly at least I know how to use the edit button and secondly I'm not the one who claims to know the notes of the fretboard and have a decent knowledge of theory and yet somehow can't construct my own arpeggios, I'm also not the one who can't type "guitar arpeggios" into google and click the first link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=guitar+arpeggios&btnG=Google+Search

and the very first page:

http://www.cyberfret.com/arpeggios/index.php

Please do look at my profile, criticism is appreciated.
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Firstly at least I know how to use the edit button and secondly I'm not the one who claims to know the notes of the fretboard and have a decent knowledge of theory and yet somehow can't construct my own arpeggios, I'm also not the one who can't type "guitar arpeggios" into google and click the first link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=guitar+arpeggios&btnG=Google+Search

and the very first page:

http://www.cyberfret.com/arpeggios/index.php

Please do look at my profile, criticism is appreciated.


yeah. PIANO theory. yeah i know its the same notes, but come on. gimme a break. ty for teh "not idiot" posts btw other people and i cant be bothered to waste a few minutes of my life looking at your profile.

but thankyou for teh website, it is very helpful. why couldnt you give me that in the first place?
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Firstly at least I know how to use the edit button and secondly I'm not the one who claims to know the notes of the fretboard and have a decent knowledge of theory and yet somehow can't construct my own arpeggios, I'm also not the one who can't type "guitar arpeggios" into google and click the first link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=guitar+arpeggios&btnG=Google+Search

and the very first page:

http://www.cyberfret.com/arpeggios/index.php

Please do look at my profile, criticism is appreciated.



My point is don't talk trash to him unless you are Eddy Van Halen and you can back it up.
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My point is don't talk trash to him unless you are Eddy Van Halen and you can back it up.


Do you mean Eddie Van Halen?
And EVH, isn't exactly the pinnacle of musical theory and technique.
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whats this, the spelling and grammar society?
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Do you mean Eddie Van Halen?
And EVH, isn't exactly the pinnacle of musical theory and technique.



this is true haha.
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Still, he's pretty good, and innovative.


I believe that the lessons to learn from eddy vanhalen are not in theory, but in practice... His contributions to techinique and tapping are outstanding.
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yeah. PIANO theory. yeah i know its the same notes, but come on. gimme a break. ty for teh "not idiot" posts btw other people and i cant be bothered to waste a few minutes of my life looking at your profile.

but thankyou for teh website, it is very helpful. why couldnt you give me that in the first place?


Theory is theory; all the notes work the same way and arpeggios don't change just because it's on a guitar, if you know theory and you know the fretboard you should be able to figure out what notes you should be playing and practice on your own, otherwise you'll only ever be able to regurgitate other people's licks.
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Theory is theory; all the notes work the same way and arpeggios don't change just because it's on a guitar, if you know theory and you know the fretboard you should be able to figure out what notes you should be playing and practice on your own, otherwise you'll only ever be able to regurgitate other people's licks.



I wish I could regurgitate some guitarists licks -- like ****in Andy Mckee.
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i dont want other peoples licks. i want my own.
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i dont want other peoples licks. i want my own.



Me too. I just think that if you learn how they construct your music you can tame yourself a bit with your phrasing... studying other peoples music is extremely useful if I learned anything from working at a production company.

You need to look at every single song and pull it appart and be like " know exactly what he or she is doing." But I digress greatly from the topic....
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lol the digress is perfectly ok the only thing im learning sweeps for really is to do a7x solos lol.
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lol the digress is perfectly ok the only thing im learning sweeps for really is to do a7x solos lol.



Well then look up the tabs for the solos you want but if you want originality you should learn how it all works as well.
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Then you're an idiot. Seriously; learn the notes of the fretboard, it'll open up your playing no end.


Ok do not listen to someone who is asking you to memorise your fretboard because that is a retarded idea
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Ok do not listen to someone who is asking you to memorise your fretboard because that is a retarded idea


How is knowing where each note is on the fretboard a retarded idea? It gives you a lot more control over your playing, especially when improvising.
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How is knowing where each note is on the fretboard a retarded idea? It gives you a lot more control over your playing, especially when improvising.



extreme tangent, but fixationdarkness...your alexi guitar is amazing
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